Ice Maiden armors: Chains of Honor VS Duress

Sako

Diabloii.Net Member
Ice Maiden armors: Chains of Honor VS Duress

Ok so.
I finally got a hold of a CoH for my ice maiden, my previous armor was a Duress. In the Ice Maiden guide I followed for this build ( http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=614373 ) Duress isn't even mentioned, but I like it a lot, and almost stands against the CoH while being a lot cheaper.

Here is a little comparation with a full twinked equipment (well, except anni)

Chains of honor (in a 15% great hauberk) dol um ber ist
  • Def 928
  • Magic Arrow damage 579/1013
  • Strafe damage 492/927
  • Frozen Arrow damage 562/996+3537/3623
  • Total defense 1663
  • Resistances in Hell ~10%
  • +2 all skills
  • 100% damage to undead
  • 200% damage to demons

Duress (in a 15% great hauberk, average roll) shael um thul
  • Def 1215
  • Magic Arrow damage 636/1215
  • Strafe damage 532/1070
  • Frozen Arrow damage 621/1200+3339/3521
  • Total defense 2021
  • Resistances in Hell ~-25%
  • 15% crushing blow
  • 33% open wounds
  • 40% faster hit recovery

The 10% enhanced damage of duress really helps phisical damage, and the ice damage bonus almost makes up for CoH damage gain from the +2 skills.
Duress makes you a little more of a "glass cannon" because of the very low resistances and no damage absorb, but gives you more def with a 150%-200% enhanced defense. Just be aware of Gloams during baalruns. The runes are very cheap so you can try a couple rolls.
I understand that the crushing blow and open wounds won't make up for the undead/demons damage bonus of CoH (as almost any enemy in the game is an undead/demon) but it can help take out bosses faster.

TLDR version: I think Duress is underrated and you should use it if you can't afford a CoH.

Just for reference, the rest of equipment is
  • Nightwing + jewel of fervor
  • Ice MB +3 skill
  • Highlord
  • Stone of Jordan + Ravenfrost
  • Rare gloves +2 skill 20 IAS with mana leech
  • Razortail
  • Gore Riders
  • 2 bow skillers + 1 torch
 

MFDeath

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Re: Ice Maiden armors: Chains of Honor VS Duress

IMHO for this type of char def means absolutely *nothing*, a few hundred points more isn't going to make enough difference for an already extremely high chance of getting hit; defensively, you're better off relying on tactical positioning relative to your valk/decoy, and D/A/E... The CB on duress is way underrated despite half-effectiveness, but personally I'd also only consider Duress if you can afford CoH.
 

zrk

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Ice Maiden armors: Chains of Honor VS Duress

Duress is decent but for lower runes you can get treachery
 

Sako

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Ice Maiden armors: Chains of Honor VS Duress

I don't like treachery. I think the only reason for using it is for the 45% ias, the other mods aren't that special... and the 8 frame breakpoint is easy enough to reach without treachery. Duress gives a good damage bonus (+ ice damage which is themed on an Ice maiden) and I hate having a +2 assassin skills on an amazon.
 

zrk

Diabloii.Net Member
Re: Ice Maiden armors: Chains of Honor VS Duress

8/7 dmg bonus from treachery(if it allows the 7 frame bp which it should iirc) is bigger than the cb and cold dmg from duress, if your items are any decent at all.
 
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