I never thought of this. Seems great, opinions?

[Nimbostratus]

Re: I never thought of this. Seems great, opinions?

yeah....and of course other factors involving the shield is res in addition to block, maybe life, maybe fcr, maybe fhr, whatever......

On a summoner, none of those are really of major importance.

Being ranged and having a whole army of minions pretty much makes all defensive stats irrelevant. It's generally just projectiles that'll get by, and those can be dodged. Just equip some extra resist charms when facing gloams or other dangerous things that are hard to avoid.

As for FCR, it's a summoner. The only real FCR-based thing is Corpse Explosion, but not even that really needs high cast speed.

 

[Pasky]

Re: I never thought of this. Seems great, opinions?

I love having FCR on my summoner =). It's a must for me.

 

[Nimbostratus]

Re: I never thought of this. Seems great, opinions?

You can still get FCR from your other slots. Heck, I think you can still reach the 125 FCR breakpoint if you really wanted (not that it would be practical, though).

 

[The Son Of Disaster]

Re: I never thought of this. Seems great, opinions?

correct ill be rockin 75% fcr with bow which is fine i never have to tele across egypt and it only takes a few corpse ex to kill a monster mob

 

[NumtyDoo]

Re: I never thought of this. Seems great, opinions?

Just did the damage calc and you would be getting 4k(roughly) more damage per second (after amp) with faith over beast. It would be an interesting alternative build, but I know that there have been lots of times that a shield has saved my butt when I get a bad tele.

 

[The Son Of Disaster]

Re: I never thought of this. Seems great, opinions?

That 4k is not including the damage I would be doing with my almight archery skills though correct? lol. The added leech will help round out the minimal damage I may end up taking. And being as though I'm sort of a Commando I would be running more than teleing anywho. I'd run the WSK through Baal and River-> Chaos -> Diablo

@Nimbo: It's only possible 1 way I know to get 125% with a Faith and thats with a 20% Amulet and a Fortitude on. Would be fun but kind of sacrificial for the other benefits. Albeit for a minute I considered switching off Enigma due to not using Teleport as much as most do. The skills and mobility as well as Strength are a must. Though a fort might make its way into my stash to cure boredom at times, once the char is made of course lol.

 

[shijo]

Re: I never thought of this. Seems great, opinions?

Slap on two sojs and Frostburn and you won't have very many instances of running low on mana. If you're using a bow, you can't use a homunc and its mana regen, but otherwise add that to the mix and the only mana loss you'll have is panic ce spam and summoninig your army for the first time.

 

[The Son Of Disaster]

Re: I never thought of this. Seems great, opinions?

that costs me 30 fcr to use those. I need to maintain 75% to cast CE at a rate enought to even worry about mana lol the fcr ring i got boasts fcr mana leech dex res and mana almost bought a 2/20/2os rare with 8 LL lol

 

[firelights]

Re: I never thought of this. Seems great, opinions?

cause there is no way to incorporate "Insight" without big sacrifices.

am I missing something here, but why not make an insight scythe or the like and wield it yourself?

if your main concern is purely mana, this is the best way to go. you would lose the fanaticism though, which I take it is a major concern.

an option would be to have it on switch for when you are getting low, then switch back.

dont forget about other options like pride, etc- you can wield them yourself, if you want to play around.

good luck!

 

[The Son Of Disaster]

Re: I never thought of this. Seems great, opinions?

yeah Faith is for the minions it conveniently can leech me mana though, thus leaving my merc to retain infinity, I use cta/homun on switch to prebuff. since im NL i cant afford to keep remaking insight IGs either

 

[Hellblade]

Re: I never thought of this. Seems great, opinions?

I don't want to discourage you. But your Beast won't hit anything enough unless you have Ignore Defense on some other item. The small amount of damage you do won't leech much.

And when you go up to the front line, the enemy will ignore all else and attack ONLY you if they can reach so you need something like the Delirium Helm.

 

[The Son Of Disaster]

Re: I never thought of this. Seems great, opinions?

Faith has ITD and 300% Attack rating, which is what I'll be using, not beast.

75% of the time, I'll still be corpse exploding. Just once mana starts to dwindle I'll fire some arrows into the fray to rejuvenate myself.

Faith is for a GG level fanat and styel

 

[stripeman]

Re: I never thought of this. Seems great, opinions?

Guys I built this and it works a charm. Items/Merc and Skills Listed below.

Shako (Probably going to a circlet due to resistance issue while using bow, when I find a decent one)
Perf Maras
Faith Superior Great Bow// Hoto/Homunc P Diamond (max resists on switch not with bow though)
Magefist
Arachnids Mesh
Wisp Projector and SOJ. I love the absorb when you hit piercing Black Souls.
Marrowwalk
Toch & Anni with a couple of AR charms.

Merc:
Eth Cryptic Axe Infinity
Superior Wyrm Hide Fort
Ral'd Andariel Visage

20 skele
20 mastery
20 magi

1 to revive/golem mastery/clay/blood/revive/summon resist
1 to the curses to get Lower Resist
1 to bone armour and bone wall (so far)
The rest so far are in CE, its roughly level 30 at the moment.

I have to say when you have all the auras active its pretty much.. wow. The merc outputs around 10k damage which rivals my Pally's merc who has the benefit of maxxed Concentration. Might/Fanat means I personally hit the crap out of anything I choose and the 300% extra AR helps me even hit Baal where Ignore defence doesn't work. Obviously Conviction doesn't go astray. Normally the hated member of the party, people so far are enjoying me being there because I break immunites (so far) like you wouldn't believe. Love this character. I benefit everyone.

 

[The Son Of Disaster]

Re: I never thought of this. Seems great, opinions?

Are you using any summon GCs?

I would recommend a CTA on switch vs the hoto. Hoto only gives on more prebuff skill (when you include bcommand) but 1-6 BO bakes leet cakes with summons.

I'd say kira's or small charsm to take care of the resists.

 

[NumtyDoo]

Re: I never thought of this. Seems great, opinions?

actually BO boosts summons very little. but it would help you and your merc quite a bit.

 

[stripeman]

Re: I never thought of this. Seems great, opinions?

Hehe Numpty took the words out of my mouth. Summons only get a BO off their non Mastery life from memory, so the added life to them doesn't matter as much as having +3 to skills to summon them with. Mercs fine without the added life with 10k damage and i think 6k def, and I think since completing the build I've died once.. In Icy Cellar to 50 gloamy things while I had my bow out (23 lightning resist with Bow equipped).

I don't have any summon GC's at the moment, I think realistically I can use the space better as I already have 14 magi and 14 skeletons, 13 when I use bow.

 

[The Son Of Disaster]

Re: I never thought of this. Seems great, opinions?

Agreed. 9x Charms = +3 Skels, and Magi. I use CTA cause I go all out on the Iron Golem as well as merc.