i am unsure of the direction to take with my barbarian ifr

self biased

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i am unsure of the direction to take with my barbarian

any suggetions from the community? i'm planning on using either darmic's berserk guide or spankeh's frenzy guide, but some general pros and cons would be nice. my barb's currently level 32, and i've spent four skill points: one each in bash, double strike, and the defense increase and natural resistance.

any suggestions and anecdotes are welcome.
 

churinga

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Re: i am unsure of the direction to take with my barbarian

any suggetions from the community? i'm planning on using either darmic's berserk guide or spankeh's frenzy guide, but some general pros and cons would be nice. my barb's currently level 32, and i've spent four skill points: one each in bash, double strike, and the defense increase and natural resistance.

any suggestions and anecdotes are welcome.
Do you have the gears in their guides? Some guides are rather gear-dependent, while some guides ain't. I would say that I tried (90%) Spankeh's Frenzy guide, and it is very successful in PvM, and I can use the Frenzy Barb for Uber runs in multiplayer game. Never tried Berserker, so not much to say...


 

dabeas

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Re: i am unsure of the direction to take with my barbarian

well, a lot of it depends on what u are planning on using the character for. i actually have both a uber frenzy barb, and an unfinished pvp zerker barb. but i will run u through my gear, and what i like and don't like about each toon.

lvl 87 frenzy barb:
ebotdz
edeathz
ap coh
highlords
LoH, and dracs for uber meph n lilith
arreats w/ 32/15 ias jewel
gores
string of ears

frenzy barbs are definitely my favorite, and what i feel to be the most fun build out there. w/ their fast killing speed, insane amount of dmg, and high life, they make for very efficient killing machines. w/ this guy i can pretty much go anywhere in the game, and put a beating on whatever i come across including taking on all 3 ubers at the same time, and never worry about my dieing. but, the drawbacks to this character are im, pi,lack of mobility, and their isn't a good pvp build.

lvl 90 tele zerker barb. (my current project)

ber+ber coa - don't have yet
mp nigma
ebotd gpa
highlords
2x ravens
trang gloves
arach mesh
tri res rare boots
charms (don't have yet) - 9x bcomb lifers, 10x 5 all res sc

well, im kinda undecided on this toon so far. as i said im building him for pvp, but so far since i dont have all my gear yet, so ive been limited to pvm and baal runs, but i have had some time to goof off w/ him. for pvm he basically runs as a ww barb (and does do some decent dmg for only 1 pt ww), and then i use zerk for bosses. the worries that i have w/ this toon is that even w/ a 20/232 +20/236 raven i only have ~10k ar, and i would like to see this more ~18k, but ill see where im at after the bcombs n see if i need to adjust for angelics ring n ammy. also, im not sure if he is balanced enough for pvp, since i will only have 40 fcr, 39 dr, 12 fpa, no blk, 0 def, and no way to stun, but ill just have to wait n see what happens. the best things about this character is that he is very flexable. he can tele for a good ways b4 potting, will have ~6k+ life, will have tons of stacked res, an insane amt of dmg (~12k b4 bcombs), easily deals w/ pi and im, and hopefully is viable at not only pvm, but also pvp.
 

churinga

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Re: i am unsure of the direction to take with my barbarian

Are you building a BvC? All Vita? If all Vita, how do you have the str to support CoA?

BTW:
what is gpa =p
 

dabeas

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Re: i am unsure of the direction to take with my barbarian

I got a 15ed eth Stygian Pike, isn't it better than gpa? same avg dmg, higher max dmg, same base speed, and lower str/dex req :tongue:
well, botd is a 6 rune runeword, and a stygian pike can only get 4os, so it won't work w/ botd. bvc? no, hes not a ww baba, its a tele zerker, i just use 1 pt ww for pvm and to escape stun. and, as far as the st for coa:

18/20 anni = 18
19/20 torch = 19
ebotd gpa = 30
base = 30
nigma @ 90= 67
total: = 164

so, i had to add 10 pts to st (coa is 174), 0 to dex, 0 to energy, and the rest of my pts went to vitality.


 

churinga

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Re: i am unsure of the direction to take with my barbarian

cool, thanks! :D

btw, why not consider +str charms?
 

dabeas

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Re: i am unsure of the direction to take with my barbarian

cool, thanks! :D

btw, why not consider +str charms?

well, i just dont see where they would fit into the build. the 10 pts that i put into st cost me ~100 life after bo, but if i were to go w/ 2x bcomb/st instead of 2x bcomb/life it could end up costing me ~200 life, so that doesnt work. also, 5 all res scs are expensive enough as that are, but if i got them 5 all res/2st they would be 2x expenive if not more. so, i figure the 3hr+ that it would cost isnt worth the 100 life that i wasted by not using st charms.


 

churinga

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Re: i am unsure of the direction to take with my barbarian

well, i just dont see where they would fit into the build. the 10 pts that i put into st cost me ~100 life after bo, but if i were to go w/ 2x bcomb/st instead of 2x bcomb/life it could end up costing me ~200 life, so that doesnt work. also, 5 all res scs are expensive enough as that are, but if i got them 5 all res/2st they would be 2x expenive if not more. so, i figure the 3hr+ that it would cost isnt worth the 100 life that i wasted by not using st charms.
May I ask how much life you have after BO? also your BO level after battle command and your current level? :tongue:


 

dabeas

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Re: i am unsure of the direction to take with my barbarian

well, like i said he isnt finished yet, still looking for charms, and coa. but, he is lvl 90 w/ ~5.3k life atm w/o any helm and/or charms.

my bo is:
torch = 3
anni = 1
hard pts = 20
arach = 1
enigma = 2
highlords = 1
cta = 4
bo stick = 3
battle command= 1
total = 38, and will be 39 w/ coa
 

churinga

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Re: i am unsure of the direction to take with my barbarian

very nice indeed =)

btw.. the pts sum up to 36... did you miss the arreat? if that is the case, with coa there will be 1 pt less...
 

dabeas

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Re: i am unsure of the direction to take with my barbarian

hmmm....my bad. i guess it is 36, and then 37 w/ coa
 
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