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HoZ vs a SS

Discussion in 'Paladin' started by plasteredkittylizard, Mar 15, 2004.

  1. plasteredkittylizard

    plasteredkittylizard IncGamers Member

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    HoZ vs a SS

    I know that HoZ and SS are generally accepted as THE shields, bar none. (perhaps runeword shields, but otherwise....) In any case, for a zealot, are the 2 more or less interchangable, all things considered? I think I'd have an easier time trading for the SS than HoZ at this rate, and wanna know how much I'd be shooting myself in the foot....
     
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    Dracoy IncGamers Member

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    For Zealot

    Exile>HoZ>SS

    For Ladder Smiter/Zealot

    Uped HoZ>Exile>Ss

    Imo thats wha tthey are.
     
  3. PoopyPants

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    exile is just pro for a zealot if you can make up DR in other areas.
     
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    Well said Dracoy. Upgraded HOZ all the way for my vindi. No holds barred and all things being held equal, a vindi with an Exile and Doom would still buckle to the power of Upgraded HOZ matched with a LACERATOR.
     
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    X-Todd IncGamers Member

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    what do you guys mean by "Upgraded" HoZ?
    what upgrade do you do to it?
     
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    upgrade cube formula. changes the shield form an exceptional item into an elite item while mantaining all of its original bonuses. it does increase the level requirement and the str. requirement.
     
  7. X-Todd

    X-Todd IncGamers Member

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    i looked into it a bit.
    do you have to change it to an exeptional first, then to elite?
    i saw this:

    1 Tal Rune + 1 Shael Rune + 1 Perfect Diamond + Normal Unique Armor = Exceptional Version of Armor

    and this

    1 Ko Rune + 1 Lem Rune + 1 Perfect Diamond + Exceptional Unique Armor = Elite Version of Armor (Ladder Only)

    is that what you would have to do?
    is that recipe correct?
    what is the str and lvl requirement after you upgrade it?
    cause i might want to try and get my hands on a HoZ :)
     
  8. kryo

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    No need for the first part, as HoZ is already an exceptional item. You need only to drop it in the cube with Lem, Ko, and a Pdiamond, and be sure that you've got the strength to handle it afterwards :p
     
  9. X-Todd

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    ah cool, thanks.
    does anyone know what the requrements are after its upgraded?
    cause i guess i need to find out if i can plan on doing that or not to.
    does it really make that much of a difference for the HoZ?

    i guess i will have to get a HoZ then too :)
    ive never had any of those cool uniques before.
    just those rare ones with the yellow wording :(
    im building a hammerdin right now,
    im at level 33 currently.
    id love to get him with one of these eventually
     
  10. hulk2004

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    uped hoz is ony used by a v/t (smiter) its realy not worth upgrading it for a hammerdin or a zealot...

    correct me if im wrong

    o and, the strn req is 142 for an uped hoz
     
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    I think if you can get the DR from elsewhere, the HOZ / Upgraded HOZ is the way to go. In the old days I think it was a tougher question, but now that DR is maxed at 50%, and more DR items have become available, the HOZ > SS.
     
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    thank you.
    appreciate the info :)
     
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    I beg to differ. A zealot really doesn't benefit from +skills much. By having your DR mostly taken care of by SS you can concentrade on adding more dmg with ed armor etc etc. UM ss > HoZ for a zealot IMO.
     
  14. Mack

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    But an UM HOZ would take care of a lot of your resists, which would free your gear/charms for other things. +2 fanat, +4 zeal (not to mention +other skills) is handy to have. Either way, both are good options. SS is cheaper these days I believe.
     
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    Wound up trading for a 5/5 lig (die) facet SS - not a bad offer on the IK set, IMO. I think I'll hold onto it until I get an offer along the lines of a Crescent Moon phase blade, then rebuild entirely, into either a focused zealot or a dual CMPB frenzier.

    On a side note, and completely off topic, found a really entertaining and possibly viable guide....

    http://www.froglicker.net/d2/leap.html

    Froggybarb
     
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    True but +2 fana and +4 zeal = next to nothing compared to other options to boost dmg/AR. Which is my point.
     
  17. IMCL85

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    as for hammerdin:

    HOZ>exile>ss
     
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    why..oh why, woudl u slap a exile or ss on a hammerdin in the first place...its blasphemy
     
  19. Pravda

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    I use ss on my liberator.
     
  20. Ryshenron

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    umm ok, good for you
     

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