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How to build my hybrid

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  1. Dreamghost

    Dreamghost Diabloii.Net Member

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    How to build my hybrid

    heys. im planning to build a meteorb mf sorceress and wondering how exactly to spend my skill points, how many frozen orb, how many cold mastery, how many meteor, how many fireball, how many fire mastery etc. any help would be much apreciated. thank you.
     
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    Re: How to build my hybrid

    Mine, i put 1 in static/teleport
    20 frozen orb
    1-10 in cold mastery
    20 in fireball
    20 in meteor
    20 in fire mastery
    rest in firebolt.

    Use meteor/fireball as main skills, and when fire immune use orb.
     
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    Re: How to build my hybrid

    i dont mean any disrespect, but is this "scientifically" proven to be the best skill choice for max damage?
     
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    Re: How to build my hybrid

    That's the cookie cutter build, so ye. I like to get cold mastery to level 25/27 so it's more effective against bosses, plus fire immunes are so abundant it pays to have a stronger orb.
     
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    Re: How to build my hybrid

    mathematically, you need to know how many +skills and +fire skills you have from gear to calculate the "optimal" balance between Fire Mastery and FB synergies. Generally, the more +skills you have, the better it is to pump synergies instead of mastery.

    The more you give up in Fire for Orb damage, too, the closer you wander towards an Orbitaller build. If you want a balanced cold-fire attack, Orbitaller. If you want a heavy Fire attack with an OK Cold backup, Meteorb. Generally, the former is better for area-clearing and the latter is better for bosshunting.
     
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    Re: How to build my hybrid

    Depends orb's syngery ice bolt only provides 2% per point you put into it. So would it pay off more to put more into fire or cold? Or tell me your skill distribution please I always been bad with sorc.


     
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    Re: How to build my hybrid

    ice bolt 2% isnt that bad(hybrids aside). Blizz gets just as much from synergies after it has 30 points in synergies
     
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    Re: How to build my hybrid

    I don't think so. A Meteorb would only be better at Andy, but a 40 point Fire tree would still do fine there and 40-50 point FO is defintely faster for Meph, Dia and Baal, simply because of CMs effectiveness. I even used FO on my Meteorb there because Meteor was so lacking.



     
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    Re: How to build my hybrid

    Surely faster on Diablo and Baal because of the number of Fire immunes there. Not sure about Mephisto because it drops very fast with Meteor/Fireball, and personally, I like to tank him myself because merc dies less that way. The Pits is also better with Meteorb as is Countess (though if you have good equipment you may not feel much diff here)
     
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    Re: How to build my hybrid

    could you explain the expression "cookie cutter"? cos im not really familliar with its meaning.
     
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    Re: How to build my hybrid

    a cookie cutter is a piece of metal used to cut cookie dough into shapes

    http://www.designingonline.com/dreamsalive/christmas2001/columns/kaityscraft/cookie_cutters.jpg

    In the context of D2, a "cookie cutter" build is a commonly used build, where all the skill, stat, and gear choices are predetermined. Just like cookies made with the same cutter all turn out looking the same, everyone who uses a "cookie cutter" build ends up with exactly the same character.
     
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    Re: How to build my hybrid

    i've done some calculations and it seems it is better to leave fire mastery at lvl 1+ and max the synergies for meteor max damage even with mf gear as follows, at lvl 90(at least): shako, occulus, skulders, +2 skills(or +3 to fire skills) amu, torch and anni and some 5 fire skillers. a few points left at lvl 90-91 go into fire mastery, cold mastery left at lvl 10 as someone proposed before me.
     
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    Re: How to build my hybrid

    ah, thanx!:thumbup: its all clear now.:)
    ps: sorry for the double post, i forgot.


     
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    Probably true...but the goal is to max your Fireball damage, not your Meteor damage...

    And I really dont think "some 5 fire skillers" with torch an anni is a "bare bones" MF assumption. More +skills does favor mastery less and less, but I dont think you ever get to a point where you just want 1 pt in FM.


     
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    Re: How to build my hybrid

    low torch and anni and clean skillers arent hard to get, as you are only interested in the +skills.
     
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    Re: How to build my hybrid

    A "cookie cutter" is a build that everybody builds exactly or almost the same. So yes examples of a cookie cutter would be hammerdin and light sorc. They are the two most common cookie cutter build and most overused at East ladder.


     
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    Re: How to build my hybrid

    I have an MF Orb-FB Sorc.

    Orb is my main base at 20 with a 20 ice bolt. +skillers make them both 36.
    I have one in every other cold skill.
    I have one point in lightning skills to get ES and tele. {Still 1 each, but really 16}
    I have one in fire skills and FB maxed.

    With this set-up, and my equip {450 MF}, I usually dont have problems with hell runs.
    Given that I have a merc with insight helping me out.

    Just wondering, is this way better? Using Orb as main?
    Or should I make fire my main skill and Orb as backup?
     
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    The problem there is that you have too many points wasted in 1-pt skills instead of focused on one main and one backup skill. You dont need points in the higher Cold Armors, just 1 pt in the basic one. You dont need ES, really, only SF, TK and TP. You definitely dont need one in every fire skill, only FBall, FBolt, and FM.

    You're heading in the direction of whats called an Orbitaller "cookie cutter". Maxed Frozen Orb with a Fireball backup. Max FO, max Ice Bolt, get Cold Mastery to -100, max Fire Ball, and split the rest between Fire Bolt and Fire Mastery to maximize your Fireball damage. 1 pt in SF, TK, TP is all for the Light tree.
     

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