How to beat a GG Smiter with my WW Barb

[Josiphos]

Anyway Olba, I agree that it isnt that simple, but I think what Josiphos was doing was to succinctly summarise what we all already know, that a smiter built that way would be expected to win against a barb.

I get used to him correcting my 'exactness'


One thing is for darn sure:


Bnet would be a much happier place if lifetap got nerfed in pvp

 

[Ouallada]

Well, that is where rules come in I guess. Like grief is BM in some places etc. IIRC, thorns was once quite the pvp powerhouse too

Anyway, this is just a forum. We all have something to learn huh.

 

[mainaman]

Well, that is where rules come in I guess. Like grief is BM in some places etc. IIRC, thorns was once quite the pvp powerhouse too

Anyway, this is just a forum. We all have something to learn huh.

unfortunately in pub games there is no rules , so ppl will still use lifetap items.
as for the barb killer smiter i haven't met one yet pubing on east , in that case barb wins majority of duels vs smiter

 

[Ouallada]

Yeah a barb should beat a normal smiter for the majority unless the latter is built to screw barbs over. That much is certain.

Yeah pubs have no rules, and so the concept of BM is pretty damn vague. I just do whatever I need to leave with my ear intact.

 

[Summerfun]

This thread has made me make a Bvc.
Havent really made a barb since 1.09. But now i feel like i have to make one to prove my point. " Not even the best pub smiter should be able to beat any bvc, even with life tap"

Im at lvl 93 right now, Europe non ladder if you feel like proving me wrong, PM me */w Summerfun @ europe

 

[Ouallada]

Well, the point is that it isnt the best smiter per se, but the best smiter who has 50+k defense, life tap, holy freeze, slow and tele on top of 50dr.

 

[Imbecile]

This thread has made me make a Bvc.
Havent really made a barb since 1.09. But now i feel like i have to make one to prove my point. " Not even the best pub smiter should be able to beat any bvc, even with life tap"

Im at lvl 93 right now, Europe non ladder if you feel like proving me wrong, PM me */w Summerfun @ europe

So what you're saying is Goldwrap 9 - 1 Summerfun never happened? What a ****in' waste...

 

[Summerfun]

What? I have not had a barb since early 1.10 and never a barb called summerfun.

So yes, that never happened

And what i meant was a skilled barb should never loose, ofc any random will loose. I have NEVER claimed to be a skilled bvc.

 

[Ouallada]

A skilled barb should not lose to a smiter for the majority, but can still lose the majority to a decent smiter player who builds to hunt such characters. Some of the dedicated barb players have already attested to this, so I don't see much of an argument.

 

[Summerfun]

forgive me then

 

[Imbecile]

ROFL - Quit lying son, you know what my point is, regardless of your barbs name, Goldwrap massacred you. With the new breed of tele-smiters the outcome will not change.

 

[SicHalo]

Luder has a good point goldwrap beat me pretty bad when i first dueled him it was something like 5-2 or something Ed?

But then again he was ripping barbs without even needing a anti barb setup...

And even when we duelled that anti barb setup u had Ed it was still pretty nasty i was playing well and only at best went 50/50 so i see how it ripped a majority of barbs on realm..

 

[Summerfun]

Im not saying you cant beat barbs Luder, just saying that i have personaly never dueld you with any char.
And i dont think i have ever seen a paladin called goldwrap

 

[SicHalo]

Im not saying you cant beat barbs Luder, just saying that i have personaly never dueld you with any char.
And i dont think i have ever seen a paladin called goldwrap

hmm you eu ladder? Cuz unless your new to pvp its kinda hard to understand you never ever seen or heard of goldwrap..

And as i stated i rarely if ever lose consistantly to smiters but he was one of the handfull only one without anti barb gear to give me trouble the others had anti barb gear and i did not have much experience dealing with this..

 

[mainaman]

hmm you eu ladder? Cuz unless your new to pvp its kinda hard to understand you never ever seen or heard of goldwrap..

And as i stated i rarely if ever lose consistantly to smiters but he was one of the handfull only one without anti barb gear to give me trouble the others had anti barb gear and i did not have much experience dealing with this..

just curios do you know what goldwrap's gear was like?

 

[kohlman]

is this goldwrapthe person?

from my experience, unless the smiter is specifically geared to bvb killing, the barb has a good chance till life tap casts, and then, mindas go back to town cause both ppl know who wins that...

 

[Summerfun]

Im on non ladder, and im by far not new to duels.
I have dueld since 1.08. But i dont play that much anymore, most of my time is spent a Muay Thai. And when i did duel, i mostly played EP.

 

[SicHalo]

just curios do you know what goldwrap's gear was like?

he wore normal smiter gear i.e coa + enigma +waterwalks possibly our realm belt + exile +grief pb +draculs

sometimes he used hoz shield.

He was even ripping barbs on a charge+1 point smite pala when we were last dueling.

Like i said he was not geared to kill barbs he was prolly one of the best smite vs all and if he geared up in anti barb gear it would prolly b a quick 10-0

 

[mainaman]

he wore normal smiter gear i.e coa + enigma +waterwalks possibly our realm belt + exile +grief pb +draculs

sometimes he used hoz shield.

He was even ripping barbs on a charge+1 point smite pala when we were last dueling.

Like i said he was not geared to kill barbs he was prolly one of the best smite vs all and if he geared up in anti barb gear it would prolly b a quick 10-0

I don't doubt that if skilled the smiter can beat barbs, even morotsjos admits that.
I have seen 2 smiters on ladder that dont lose to barbs, exception me but the duels were very close , and they didn't even use exiles.

 

[SicHalo]

yeah morotsjos is the best bvc on our realm and goldwrap went 50/50 with him in the duels they had.

If the smiter is well skilled it will beat a majority of barbs with no problem. I believe thats a fact and it can be a very close duel.