How to beat a GG Smiter with my WW Barb

SicHalo

Diabloii.Net Member
where did i say weapon/shield is wrong? vs another bvb it obvious u need this shield. Im indicating the weap/weap vs the smiter not a bvb...

If your having problems with tele smiters, you have to counter with judgement, i.e where they will land next and how to clip.

Vs an anti barb smiter which is worst than above as these guys have high defence 50k+ use like 35% slow (extra 10%comes from my realm setup) use high lvl holy freeze.

These smiters again use tele smite, however they abuse hf + slow which reduces whirlwind moving speed which is based on running speed basically it will keep you in the smite range longer allowing the smiter to hit you more times and with good smiting can destroy majority of barbs at best you will go 50/50 or higher depending on how good you are. These are much rarer as they are more a specific class killer.
 

Ouallada

Diabloii.Net Member
where did i say weapon/shield is wrong? vs another bvb it obvious u need this shield. Im indicating the weap/weap vs the smiter not a bvb...
Precisely. Just like I never said weapon/shield was correct, just that it was favoured by BvBs.

Anyway, I think there is enough info here for the OP to peruse. Up to him to go improve himself or something.
 

CaptnSparrow

Diabloii.Net Member
He said the Smiters he's up against use Life Tap.



From that point on, there's no Bm/Gm. Since mass healing from Tap is BM by almost anyone's standards, you can feel free to dual Doom, Cleglaw gloves, whatever.
 

mainaman

Diabloii.Net Member
to beat a smiter you need to:
1. have 50 dr
2. use beast/grief + angelics , add enchant if they use exile
3. know how to ww correctly

and
4. if the smiter is build to kill barbs you can't beat them, luckily almost noone bothers to build such smiters.
 

Cheesehed

Diabloii.Net Member
Double doom is BM by a lot of standards though. Be careful about that. Use Hsarus for more AR too. Also, I seriously do not see the point in the eth fort. Is there really a need for that?

Well, bvbs have max block as well, so depending on how you already allocated your stats, you may or may not have achieved it. Anyway, triangular whirls work against stupid smiters, but against better ones whirl away when they tele, make seemingly random whirls, like going towards them and whirling away to the side. Keep the smiter second guessing, desync a little with your whirls and you should beat most smiters, besides those which were built simply to kill characters like yours :p
paladins are bm



 

akumaxxyz

Diabloii.Net Member
to beat a smiter you need to:
1. have 50 dr
2. use beast/grief + angelics , add enchant if they use exile
3. know how to ww correctly

and
4. if the smiter is build to kill barbs you can't beat them, luckily almost noone bothers to build such smiters.
sure can, you only need to get high ar and its just another ww vs smite duel.
2x high dmg fool's ba/angelics/hsaru's/+ chant is how much ar?
doubt you can get 100k def on smiter and still be effective



 

mephiztophelez

Diabloii.Net Member
i'd suggest trying to get Knockback in your gear somewhere.

most pub smiters can be beaten by a simple whirl-away. when i come up against one thats better than the average (or a sorb/lifetap whore), i often have to dig out my fools/kb claw (i use a ww/trapper not a barb, but the mechanics are fairly similar).

imho: CtC lifetap has no place in a GM duel. its everywhere in pubs, but pubs are not the place to find GM opponents.
 

Barloc

Diabloii.Net Member
Hi... I have a pvp ww barb who kick ***...

6k life
37k def
24k Ar
8500WW Damage(with no sheild)

No matter what i do GG smiters whoop me...
I can beat every class ez but gg smiters that use life tap and everything own me... what should i do to beat them?

btw:

I use
ebotdcb
steelrends
gores
eth arreats
eth fort
angelics (rings + ammy)
dungos


any1 got any tips?
SicHalo is spot on but I'm assuming your mastery is sword. So unless you want to completely rebuild for axe, I would suggest equiping another ebotdcb or a Grief Zwiehander . And of course, pop on a BerBer CoA.



 

mainaman

Diabloii.Net Member
sure can, you only need to get high ar and its just another ww vs smite duel.
2x high dmg fool's ba/angelics/hsaru's/+ chant is how much ar?
doubt you can get 100k def on smiter and still be effective
you can easyly get 100k def on a smiter
eth 5k def stone and some prebuff should get you there.
also 60k smiter is good enough to demolish any barb , just use hf flash and clegs

BA - Asking for Doom
PB - Asking for clip

Under pub circumstances...
doom is not a solution at all
if so be it you better fade and slap on fortitude...



 

akumaxxyz

Diabloii.Net Member
you can easyly get 100k def on a smiter
eth 5k def stone and some prebuff should get you there.
also 60k smiter is good enough to demolish any barb , just use hf flash and clegs

doom is not a solution at all
if so be it you better fade and slap on fortitude...
like i said you wont be so effective if you go all defense, stone = no tp imo you cant beat a bvc with out engima.

if you use 2x perf fool's rare ba with 2 ums in each, you can easily kill this kind of smiter with near perfect tele ww cliping



 

Moritz

Diabloii.Net Member
like i said you wont be so effective if you go all defense, stone = no tp imo you cant beat a bvc with out engima.

if you use 2x perf fool's rare ba with 2 ums in each, you can easily kill this kind of smiter with near perfect tele ww cliping

the question is who got 2 perf fool's rare bas in closed bnet?



 

mainaman

Diabloii.Net Member
like i said you wont be so effective if you go all defense, stone = no tp imo you cant beat a bvc with out engima.

if you use 2x perf fool's rare ba with 2 ums in each, you can easily kill this kind of smiter with near perfect tele ww cliping
ever heard of teleport charges amulets?
really from what i see you posted , you havent really encountered such a smiter. I have and really you cant beat such thing.



 
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