How the Hell Did Bush Get Reelected?

How the Hell Did Bush Get Reelected?

Honestly, how did Bush get reelected back in 2004? This question keeps me up at night sometimes. I mean, Bush had low approval ratings by the time the election began and John Kerry was a candidate who was actually in Vietnam, not some guy who went AWOL.

On another note, I think it's retarded how Republicans vote along party lines. They vote for whichever douchebags their party nominates and appears on the ballot.

*goes back to watching Dennis Kucinich present his articles of impeachment on C-SPAN*
 

moo-cow

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Re: How the Hell Did Bush Get Reelected?

Truman also had low numbers and he got elected.

wouldn't it be fair to say that dems vote along party lines as much as republicans?

is there something specific you're looking for here or just trying to start something. first post and you're attacking...something.
 
Re: How the Hell Did Bush Get Reelected?

Truman also had low numbers and he got elected.

wouldn't it be fair to say that dems vote along party lines as much as republicans?

is there something specific you're looking for here or just trying to start something. first post and you're attacking...something.
Okay, you're on to something.

I'm kind of pissed off at the status quo and Republicans don't always nominate the brightest people. Hence why I'm not attacking Democrats.


 

Tanooki

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Re: How the Hell Did Bush Get Reelected?

Oh.. because Dems nominate the brightest people?
 

S Z

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*pop, pop, pop pop pop pop pop pop pop *

'Om nom nom.
 

Rashiminos

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Re: How the Hell Did Bush Get Reelected?

Honestly, how did Bush get reelected back in 2004? This question keeps me up at night sometimes. I mean, Bush had low approval ratings by the time the election began and John Kerry was a candidate who was actually in Vietnam, not some guy who went AWOL.

On another note, I think it's retarded how Republicans vote along party lines. They vote for whichever douchebags their party nominates and appears on the ballot.

*goes back to watching Dennis Kucinich present his articles of impeachment on C-SPAN*
When changing one's opinion was propagandized as "flip-flopping," and the American public fell for it. I blame the American public, and I admit the Republicans' campaign strategy worked.
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Disclaimer: This does not imply that I believe Kerry's term would have been any better.

(Note: This is the non-conspiratorial version. The conspiratorial version would discuss vote-rigging and testimonies before Congressional hearings to that effect.)


 
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When changing one's opinion was propagandized as "flip-flopping," and the American public fell for it. I blame the American public, and I admit the Republicans' campaign strategy worked.
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Disclaimer: This does not imply that I believe Kerry's term would have been any better.

(Note: This is the non-conspiratorial version. The conspiratorial version would discuss vote-rigging and testimonies before Congressional hearings to that effect.)
Yes, this is the kind of response I was looking for.

And it kind of refreshes the memory.

EDIT: I remember some people saying how black peoples' votes in Ohio were deliberately not counted during the 2004 election.


 

Stoutwood

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Re: How the Hell Did Bush Get Reelected?

It was the Democrat's election to lose, and they picked an uncharismatic Senator (for God's sake) with a shady service record. Now if they had elected Wesley Clark in the primaries, it would have been a different story.
 

AeroJonesy

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Re: How the Hell Did Bush Get Reelected?

On another note, I think it's retarded how Republicans vote along party lines. They vote for whichever douchebags their party nominates and appears on the ballot.
Both sides vote along party lines. That's why there are even "sides" for us to talk about.



 

SaroDarksbane

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Honestly, how did Bush get reelected back in 2004?
Because the Democrats, in a brilliant flash of stupidity, nominated someone even more unlikeable than Bush. Good job there.
not some guy who went AWOL.
He didn't go AWOL. That was a bit of propaganda that ended up hurting the Democrats more than it hurt Bush.
On another note, I think it's retarded how Republicans vote along party lines. They vote for whichever douchebags their party nominates and appears on the ballot.
Absolutely agreed. I also think it's retarded how Democrats vote along party lines, when each douchebag their party nominates seems worse than the last.



 

Tanooki

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Re: How the Hell Did Bush Get Reelected?

I still don't get how McCain just appeared out of nowhere and suddenly is the forerunner for the Reps. That boggles my mind almost as much as how the Dems only get to pick their top 3 people at each caucus, instead of splitting the votes based on popular vote.
 

Gertlex

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Re: How the Hell Did Bush Get Reelected?

Yes, this is the kind of response I was looking for.

And it kind of refreshes the memory.

EDIT: I remember some people saying how black peoples' votes in Ohio were deliberately not counted during the 2004 election.
There was indeed something about people at the polls convincing some people that they weren't qualified to vote. And these happened to be black people (who I get the impression tend to more often vote democrat than republican)



 

AeroJonesy

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Re: How the Hell Did Bush Get Reelected?

I still don't get how McCain just appeared out of nowhere and suddenly is the forerunner for the Reps.
McCain didn't focus on the first few caucus states, and instead focused his efforts in states where he thought he stood a better chance of winning. A pretty good move, if you ask me.



 

Sokar Rostau

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Re: How the Hell Did Bush Get Reelected?

Electoral shenanigans (which also happened in Florida in 2000 with thousands of people being falsely registered as ineligible to vote) aside, America's campaign practices are at fault. It isn't about the best man winning, it's about the man with the biggest campaign fund and the least **** sticking to him at the end winning. American political campaigns seem to be almost entirely about negativity - the doom and gloom that will be the result of electing the other guy, the other guy is a bad man because <insert any number of meaningless irrelevant crap, such as "he rides a sailboard" here>, the other guy is intent on ruining the economy, releasing all the prisoners from the gaols, taking everyone's rights away from them and raising taxes... he is also quite possibly a *** serial killer that enjoys kiddy porn and beating up crippled old ladies from fun.

It seems the focus is on people "wasting" their votes, instead of making them count. The parties would sooner see less voters, period, than the people vote for someone else. In a nation that doesn't have compulsory voting and rarely gets more than 60% voter turnout to begin with, less voters altogether is much better than more voters for any given candidate. It's a case of "If I can't have your vote, then nobody else can have it either". The public are told that they have a choice between A or B "real" candidate and that only Candidate A has a real chance of winning so voting for Candidate B, or anyone else, is a wasted vote. The thing is, if all those people told their votes would be wasted voting for "the other guy" actually voted for him anyway, "the other guy" might actually win. Americans seem to have little to no concept of the "protest vote", which is at the heart of the democratic process - if you don't like either major candidate vote for a third candidate and send a message to the major parties that you, you who hold their power at your voting fingertips, are not satisfied. Rather than make this fundamental act of democracy, voters are encouraged to simply not engage in the process at all.

Voting in a democracy is not a right, it is a duty.
 
Re: How the Hell Did Bush Get Reelected?

Oh, I get it now. People would rather reelect a guy with failed policies than a guy who is even more unlikeable than the incumbent.
 

USEast Tristan

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Re: How the Hell Did Bush Get Reelected?

Honestly, how did Bush get reelected back in 2004? This question keeps me up at night sometimes. I mean, Bush had low approval ratings by the time the election began and John Kerry was a candidate who was actually in Vietnam, not some guy who went AWOL.

On another note, I think it's retarded how Republicans vote along party lines. They vote for whichever douchebags their party nominates and appears on the ballot.

*goes back to watching Dennis Kucinich present his articles of impeachment on C-SPAN*
I think there was a big backlash against media coverage of the war. War supporters tend to be a lot quieter than the opponents, but the actual election turnout revealed that Bush really did enjoy support from the party.



 
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