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How strong are DC and the Ubers

Discussion in 'Theorycrafting and Statistics' started by JKS, Aug 5, 2010.

  1. JKS

    JKS IncGamers Member

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    How strong are DC and the Ubers

    Since I play mostly SP probably I will never fight them.
    I see comments that they are very strong and that only certain builds are suitable to kill them.

    Please be so kind to explain me the following:
    - can you solo kill them or you definately need a party
    - if you can solo kill them at what clvl that can be done realistically
    - do you have to have godly equip or good (above average) will do.

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    Re: How strong are DC and the Ubers

    All you need is crushing blow and and life tap. (From Draculs or life tap wand)

    I've never tried it with lower than lvl 85, so I'd say ~85

    "Godly" is definately not needed :wink: You just need some CB and life tap. And stacked resists for Mephs conviction aura. (It gives -125 resists)


     
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    Re: How strong are DC and the Ubers

    I'd say that you could do the ubers at a level like 29 now a days with hybride runewords.... :/ ... AS IncubatorJones says, lifetap and CB and Smite and OW, if you have those and decent resists and health... you've killed DC.
     
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    Re: How strong are DC and the Ubers

    I've killed them at level 81 with a 1 point smiter using gear a pro ubertrist runner would laugh at, so I'm certain you could kill them at a lower level than that.
     
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    Re: How strong are DC and the Ubers

    Definitely solo worthy

    Requires specific builds - melee oriented or at least viable (1point smiter)

    Lifetap, OW, Crushing blow, and stack res in a melee combatant basically surmises what is needed.

    The main thing to consider about level is that aside from a smiter, ar is greatly affected by the level gap.

    Dclone, unlike ubers, is a lot easier (mainly because he's alone) and can be done with many more builds as he doesn't have the same reqs as uberland.
     
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    Re: How strong are DC and the Ubers

    I feel like a noob here, but.. What does OW stand for? :D I can't figure it out :p
     
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    Re: How strong are DC and the Ubers

    Open Wounds.
     
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    Re: How strong are DC and the Ubers

    I suspect his post was about "why do you need ow in pvm", not "what does the ow letters mean". Personally, I can't get the point of OW too since it doesn't stop hp regen afaik.
     
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    Re: How strong are DC and the Ubers

    Open Wounds sets the life regeneration to a negative number.


     
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    Re: How strong are DC and the Ubers

    So I was wrong, ty for info.
     
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    Re: How strong are DC and the Ubers

    Well, you are not entirely wrong. Replenish Life still works on a wounded player. However it is nearly impossible to negate the open wounds effect with replenish life.
     
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    Re: How strong are DC and the Ubers

    CB and OW with either a smiter(best option) or any melee char will easily take out DC. As for a caster its totally possible but much harder. Best I can say is try him out for yourself.
     
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    Re: How strong are DC and the Ubers

    Well geared fishy can take down ubers himself =) (revive urduars)
     
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    Re: How strong are DC and the Ubers

    So i've just killed DC with lvl 76 frenzy barb and it took about 15seconds of namelock swinging. I had, however, low dualgriefs which have ignore target's defence, but the rest of equipment were pgms worth. Never thought it's so easy for barb.
     
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    Re: How strong are DC and the Ubers

    Ignore target's defence doesn't work on the ubers or any superunique monster if i recall correct


     
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    Re: How strong are DC and the Ubers

    Yep, the irony of the ITD mod is that for the monsters you actually need it for, it doesn't work.
     
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    Re: How strong are DC and the Ubers

    But -% target's defence on grief and -% defence due to war cry work, right? Apparently it helped me to grip dclone down to 1/2 hp in a 4-5 seconds with only 15% cb on gores.
     
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    Re: How strong are DC and the Ubers

    Yep -def works.
     
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    Re: How strong are DC and the Ubers

    Sorry, but what's a Hybrid runeword?


     
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