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how much resistance does it take to negate a FOHdins FOH?

Discussion in 'Paladin' started by eon, Mar 15, 2004.

  1. eon

    eon IncGamers Member

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    how much resistance does it take to negate a FOHdins FOH?

    assuming the FOHdin has godly items.... like all combat gcs, all perfect items, 5/-5 lightning jewels, etc, etc

    how much resistance and absorb does it take to negate it useless
     
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    Omikron8 IncGamers Member

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    If this is hell dueling, most likely some crazy setup like 400% or more lighting resistance + tgods + 20% wisp projector.
     
  3. Scrub0

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    -150 from conv, -20% from facets...so whatever it takes for you to get 75 res + 170. A 4 ptopaz shield helps alot.
     
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    memememe173 IncGamers Member

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    health and damage + resists not resists on their own

    Even with 95 lit resist and Wisp he can still do a fair bit of damage if you don't get him quick
     
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    PoopyPants Banned

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    yeah I have like 240% light resist stacked and I still get hurt from max foh/convict palas in hell. For a straight FOHer your looking at lvl 45 foh and -150 resists from conviction. What really kills you is the +dmg from his synergies. The best thing to do is have over 200 resist and as much absorb as possible.
     
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    200 is not going to cut it. 375 will cut the - resistance in hell with facets. Be sure to have 95% lr and tgods.
     
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    Notice I said "over 200" not 200. I don't think TOTALLY negating a pure full synergy FOHer in hell is viable without sacrificing most of your usual gear. However if you have over 200 resist (the more the better) and some absorb you should live long enough to kill them first.
     
  8. DeathsHand

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    this is what my V/T uses agaisnt foh palas or other v/ts

    shako
    silence phase (75% res)
    guardian angel + um (15% + 15 max)
    thundergods
    1 raven + soj
    highlords (35%)
    185% light res sacred targe
    perf sandstorms
    draculs

    thats 310% light res and i have up to 6* 11% light res small charms with life/fhr

    only thing i have to change from stash is some small charms and guardian angel, other then that i have lacerator + herald on switch for normal smite/foh.

    thats quite easy to get and u sacrifice very little to get it.
     
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    you have 10% DR and low smite dmg.
     
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    FenRiR IncGamers Member

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    assuming is against another foh dr is not very important i may say.
     
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    Module88 IncGamers Member

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    Over 200 is just WAY too vague. Over 200 is anywhere from 200-500. That's a huge range. Negating foh is simple enough, for me anyway.

    20 from ammy
    110 from charms
    50 from boots
    30 from gloves
    30 From Quests
    75 From SPB
    50 From HoZ

    365. Lo Shako and Lo Shaftstop and my shield give 48% dr, 95% max lr (tgods of course) and 365% stacked lr.
     
  12. DeathsHand

    DeathsHand IncGamers Member

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    yes i forgot the part where foh does pyhsical dmg ^^, besides ive never bothered using and higher then 18% dr on this pala and ive never had problems with good mannered duellers.

    also how have i got low smite dmg?
    10 combat charms with life/fhr etc
    +2 harle
    +1 highlords / +2 maras
    +1 guardian
    +2 silence
    +2 from soj/BK
    and im using an elite smiting shield

    how do i have low smite dmg exactly?
     
  13. *Cyrus*

    *Cyrus* IncGamers Member

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    Smite deals physical damage. Mr. Poopy was referring to your lack of defense against Smite and physical attacks.

    I'm pretty sure this list of gear is different from the one he was talking about that you listed earlier in this thread.
     
  14. strength_honor

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    No one in their right mind should ever use Guardian Angel...

    It is such a piece of ugly armor. plus you can get 90 ~ 95% LR easily . Assuming you are using Engima armor you will be able to carry Thunder God + Stormshied as well...

    you can have 11 x 9 + 20 119 resist from charms...

    socket shako with LO

    and socket STormshield with PTopaz

    and use a 6 socket PhaseBlade with 30 LR jewel with 2nd mod

    plus you get resist from boots + ammy too.

    you can well resist FOH in hell and at the same time have 50% DR.

    use meditation as well .
     
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    Jeez you people make it sound like negating FOH is hArd...

    4 topazed shield = gg
    3 ort helm = gg

    Those are things you can **** out of your penny wallet [hopefully] and if you have a good setup you shouldnt even really need those anyways...
     
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    Single click = double post? :scratch: lame
     
  17. IMCL85

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    lol you know how many + skill you just give up for just have the resis. + foh does phy damage as well. And you know most foh pally wouldn't just stick with foh only. I had been dueling a dude whos using uber gear highbird foh/smite. lol in my opinion he already win if he made you give up like a sheild and a helm. Since he can easily swich to smite and by then you are in seriouse trouble since his smite lvl will be way higher then urs as well and in most case after you tank enought foh you life will drop atleast 25% since foher usually use enigma so in general they will spaming foh and teleport until their mana pool is gone. By then you go close range smite the odd you will win is going down to 50%.
     
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    I never said anything about smite. this thread isnt even about smite. I have a foh char that uses smite and he kills 95% of what he sees. But that doesnt mean its not easy to negate conviction.
     
  19. Diminished-Soul

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    I believe in my old setup on my v/t I had 3xx resist and just used t-gods with lil absorb and my Shield you know about to get 95% lr...

    It did nothing to me...

    I would chase Ben down and smite him to death T_T
     
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    and fireballs do fire dmg....whats your point?

    like i said before ive never felt the need for higher then 18% DR, i kill 9/10 botd barbs and can go at LEAST 50/50 with any other physical attackers by just changing to verdungos thats an extra 15% dr.

    the gear i listed was exactly the same, i was simply stating that i wasnt sacrificing +skills for light res so if you wouldnt mind could you get a clue and read more of what im saying next time pls.
     

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