Loptop said:
A V/T with 1 pt in Conviction will end up with lvl 16ish Conviction, which is -105%.
A mage will end up with about lvl 19ish, which is -120%. I doubt either of them having any facets, however it's possible that a mage will use Griffon's.
No, I've never played either, I'm just basing these on an assumption of certain gear.
However, I consider it possible that they will get to a high lvl to get their conviction to 25ish or use something else to get the aura up.
A foh scepter on either is _very_ unlikely. As it cripples the fcr of the hammers, and wouldn't allow cta or grief on the v/t. And without CTA the v/t will end up dying due to bo running out. Without Grief, well, the V/T will be a breakfast.