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Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by ProjectHate, Nov 15, 2006.

  1. ProjectHate

    ProjectHate IncGamers Member

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    How much cast for bvc? Check out this ring also.

    Hi, so now that i got this ring - 10 cast,20 str,116 ar,8 lr,22pr,15 mf ring I have 30 cast on my barb since im using arachnids.How much cast will I be needing to reach a frame over using arachnids along with 2x ravenfrosts , is it just 30 or will I be needing another cast ring?

    Oh and I'd like the good bvc's opinion on this ring,I'll be using it along with coa ,this way it wont pop again.

    Hmm I just remembered I wanted to say I purchased the ring for 2 pally combat gc's on west ladder , I came back to d2 after a month and saw runes went way down on west ladder so I just told him pcombats were 10 runes each and went with the flow next thing you know he traded.

    Hmm I need some answers ^-^ thanks.
     
  2. oneBlast

    oneBlast IncGamers Member

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    37fcr is the breakpoint IIRC (you will use 40 fcr more likely)
    str on your ring is useless - use fcr ring with fcr/high mana/res/life

    Advice - most of the time 20fcr from arach is enough.
    40 or more fcr can sometimes be usefull vs very def sorcs/ necros
     
  3. Ce Olba

    Ce Olba Banned

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    For an FCR ring yes, but for an overall ring not. It will allow Hsarus + CoA + Grief + Beast + Fortitude.



     
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    oneBlast IncGamers Member

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    I was refering to a general setup - str/fcr ring can be used for some custom setups, of course.
     
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    mainaman IncGamers Member

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    the bad thing about hsarus +forti is that one really loses easy desynch ability . i tested and looks like with that set up 10% frw loss from gores is crucial , and my desynch gets seriosly crippled. Gores + fortitude = much easier desynch than fortitude + hsarus. You will desynch with hsarus too but it requires longer ww's which puts the barb at risk since the better hammerdins and smiters will be able to easyly predict where to place themselves for nice hits on you.



     
  6. Ce Olba

    Ce Olba Banned

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    Who the hell cares for a damn about desynch versus Smiters? It's not like a good smiter will even let you desynch. And I know this based on dueling the two probably best paladin players on Europe. Goldwrap, the best smiter, and Ben, the best V/T and anti-barbarian player. From what I hear, even Morotsjos loses to Ben.



     
  7. oneBlast

    oneBlast IncGamers Member

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    Besides, why would you need fcr with fort on?

    :p
     
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    Von Lazuli IncGamers Member

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    And... Fort has Faster Cast!

    Laz
     
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    TheBe IncGamers Member

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    Where you need fcr with forti on? :/
     
  10. Ce Olba

    Ce Olba Banned

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    I said the FCR is not needed. The ring would be used plainly for the +20 str. Of course, if you manage to get something like 10fcr/20str/90mana/120ar/11allres/blahblah, you should be using it.
     
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    I agree with oneBlast, most of the time arachs only. I also find high ping times = more fcr is useless, lower ping times I'm more likely to tele around...
     
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    you are wrong as usual.



     
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    ProjectHate IncGamers Member

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    Huh, I'm using the ring for cast and str in order to use coa with 40 str beast+grief so it wont POP again.
     
  14. Ce Olba

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    Wrong about what? I heard from my friend that Ben beats you. Blame him, not me.

    As for Goldwrap and Ben being the best, I doubt even with this time anyone could've even come close to their level of skill.



     
  15. ProjectHate

    ProjectHate IncGamers Member

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    yes thats all great but the fact remains cast and str are both needed on this ring in order to use coa without adding str.



     
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    you're talking out of your ***. as usual. desynch is what makes it possible for barbs to win vs smiters at all. desynch is needed to counter telesmite/positioning via desynched charge. even though karol still is the best desyncher (and most entertaining smiter in general) i've seen there are a bunch of smiters who are better at killing barbs. the fact that _you_ haven't met any means nothing. although you seem incapable of ceasing your notorious namedropping please dont mention me in any of your retarded posts again. ever.



     
  17. Ce Olba

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    And thus you will end up being incapable to switching any rings at all. Except for 1 ring at a time.



     
  18. SicHalo

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    well say what u guys want but bottom line is u need frw and desync vs a good tele smiter, hence why u usally get eaten when u use a forti setup vs a tele smiter which is even worst with hf flashing.

    And no str on a ring is a bad way to build a setup on cuz u will lose some ar despite it being 120 ar etc compared to a raven which can give upto 250 ar + 20 dex

    The closest equivelent to this is either to spend extra points in str so u can wear that coa or i use a realm belt and use trangs for fcr when needed.
     
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    Imbecile IncGamers Member

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    Hsaurus Boots str. req.: 30
    Gore Riders str. req.: 94
    Upped Gore Riders str. Req.: 156 <--- As much desynch as you'd ever want.

    Simply because Hsaurus 12 Slots @ belt, and next to no desynch ;\

    Average Tele Smiter w/ BB + Cleglaws + HF Flashing > Barbs ;\
     
  20. Ce Olba

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    And how do you plan to use Fortitude + CoA along with Hsarus? By adding an extra 20 to STR and thus losing 191 life? No thanks.



     

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