how high out of 10 do you rate lebron james

IGmaN

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how high out of 10 do you rate lebron james

out of ten, how high? :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :lol: :clap:
 

Ranger14

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Meh, I'll give him an 8-9. Far too much to prove yet to be a 10, including winning a championship.
 

Yaboosh

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Winning a championship proves a team, not a player (in my opinion). It does look good on a resume though.
 

Ranger14

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Yaboosh said:
Winning a championship proves a team, not a player (in my opinion). It does look good on a resume though.
I use to feel the same, but as I have watched the game over the years, you can be a great player and not win a championship, but can you be a "perfect 10" player? I don't think so. A perfect player needs to be able to lead his team to a championship, otherwise they can't score a 10 in my book. My opinion, but being a "perfect" player you should have to meet some pretty tough criteria and winning a championship is one of the critereia I would expect.

I agree, Aero. Given all the comparisons and expectations when he entered the game, he should have politely and respectfully asked for a different number. That bothered me though it didn't affect my scoring. :)
 

Necrolestes

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Rising stock

The only player who ever played in the NBA who warrants a ten played for the Bulls in the 80s and 90s...and I don't mean Dennis Rodman. Only Michael Jordan deserves a 10.

LeBron James is more humble than Kobe but every bit as talented; LeBron's also more of a team player. I give him an 8 based on talent and skill shown thus far.
 

Garbad_the_Weak

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Lebron is a good player, becoming a great player. He still has several flaws though and needs to prove himself.

+

Great NBA body, unselfish passer, explosive towards the basket, shooting has improved, plays passing lanes well on defense, rebounds well on defense, shows a will to win.

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Still cannot effectively beat a doubleteam, gambles so much on defense his man gets a lot of open looks, long range shot less effective and he shoots it too much, plays great through 3 quarters, comes up short in the 4th. Also, and most ominously, he has shown signs of ego recently, in particular towards his fans and teammates.

Overall, a 8/10. IMO, the top 2 gaurds in the NBA at this point (kobe, wade, tmac, vince as a net in that order after him). Can get a lot better and if he develops in the right way, can become an all time great. I need to see him come up at clutch time (and honestly, ask yourself, lebron or ben gordon at the buzzer, who would you bet on?) and see him lead a team, not just be the best on a team. I need to see his weaknesses improve (defense and shooting - common for a young player) and see him learn to make his teammates better and overcome defensive tricks. When I do, I will call him higher.

Garbad
 
9. you cant win a playoff title by yourself - mj couldnt do it .. why should he be able to with a "mediocre" team .. not his fault.

i hope he's traded, itll be much more excitiung.
 

piff

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8.5

His skill level is only a 7.5 now, but such high potential can't be overlooked. Look for this kid to be a 9.5 in a couple years. BTW, Jordan is the only 10 ever.
 

TopHatCat64

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piff said:
8.5

His skill level is only a 7.5 now, but such high potential can't be overlooked. Look for this kid to be a 9.5 in a couple years. BTW, Jordan is the only 10 ever.
Jordan was a 10 no doubt, but ever? Just off the top of my head I'm going to say Bill Russell, Bird, Magic, and Chamberlain were also 10's.

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Also as others have said you can't blame Lebron for having a crappy team around him, he can only do so much by himself before he needs some help. Oscar Robertson (the only player in the nba to ever avg a triple double for a season) needed Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's help before he finally won his trip and Jordan had Pippen (top 5 player in the nba in his prime) and Rodman, best rebounder in the nba and a tough defender. I think Lebron would win a bit more with KG and someone like Ben Wallace on his team.
 

piff

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TopHatCat64 said:
Jordan was a 10 no doubt, but ever? Just off the top of my head I'm going to say Bill Russell, Bird, Magic, and Chamberlain were also 10's.
10 is the number I use for the best and only the best. The players you listed are high, high nines. Like 9.9, 9.8, ect.
 

jimmyboy

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At this moment, LB gets a 7. He can't play defense. Still not in the playoffs. He was the ESPN darling when he first came in. His head is starting to swell. A couple of bad comments and he'll be in the dog house like Kobe. He's a big body. But as a small forward, he can use more quickness. He's really a "potential" player. Everyone is banking on how much he can potentially develop. We'll see.

BTW, Wilt was a 10. Magic was 9. Jordan was an 8.

Wilt and Jordan was arguing one day on who the best was. Then Wilt finally stood up and said "when I played the league changed the rules to make it tougher for me; when you played the league changed the rules to make it easier for you." Jordan stopped arguing.
 

Echod16

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Lebron gets a 8

Jabar and Chamberlain get my 10s

Jordan, and Magic get 9.8s

Reggie Miller and Larry bird get 9.5s
 

Ranger14

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Jigga-Scrooge said:
nba sucks. it is not basketball. it is 1v1.
So why are you posting here then? :rolleyes:

Reggie Miller? 9.5? Insert a confused smiley here. He is a really good player, but there are a lot more players I would rate higher than him.

I would definitely rate Jordan, Johnson and Oscar Robertson as 10's. Jabbar and Chamberlain as probably 10's.
 
Ranger14 said:
Reggie Miller? 9.5? Insert a confused smiley here. He is a really good player, but there are a lot more players I would rate higher than him.
in his prime, reggie miller was a superstar. 9.5 is pushing it though imo .. he is a very good clutch shooter though.

i dont see why everone is bashing lebron.. imo he will be very close to the next mj - i REALLY want him traded though. grr.

also i dont see why everyone is dissing jordan .. if you're giving jordan 8 .. then what in the world are the "normal" players getting?
 

Ranger14

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Reggie was a great clutch player, but I don't think he was a consistent player and wasn't an overall great player. I guess I should check the stats on him. I always saw him as a whiner/crybaby type of player also, which affects my eagerness to rate him over a 9. There's a reason he was captain in 1993-94 season and hasn't been since. Not winning a championship takes some off the top of being a perfect player the way I score. Let's keep in mind that a 10 is your ideal perfect player.
 
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