Re: How do we know life is real? Is a Matrix theory possible?
sorry about the spelling, i'm an american and due to online, i've become very lazy with the english language and misspell and use awful grammer.
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In the quantum world, things can actually happen without a cause.
could u expound on this or give examples ?
i'm not a quantum physics mathematician or professor, and i am horrible at math, but i understand the concepts very well, so u can talk about advanced things, but leave the math out
i'm interested in this statement as it is first time i heard it and can't think of anything off-hand in quantum (particle) mechanics
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this probably belongs more in the off topic thread, of do u believe in a god or not, but it can also apply here to the "matrix" concept:
within our own body (and all life) at the cellular lvl and maybe (some time in the future we'll find the same thing at the atomic level as fractals show us seems to hold true), that there are literally bulldozer or robot-machine cells. for example, if anyone knows about weightlifting or kinotheology, when u do anything (like physical resistance: weightlifting, running, or punching rigid structures like ice or bamboo trees), your causing (hopefully only) microscopic tears in your bones and muscles. yet, we get stronger...how is this possible? well, when we for example weight lift and cause microscopic tears in our bone and muscle, guess what happens when we rest. our body sends in its machine cells of bullbozers and whatever. they scrape or bulldoze away the damaged and torn muscle and bone, and than replace it with new muscle and bone. alright, i still haven't explained how u get stronger with bigger muscle and bone mass. well when your machine robot repair cells go to work, they don't just repair the damage done, they actually workover time and put on an extra layer of bone or muscle than was originally there before your torn it through physical activity. repeat the process and u get more and more layers of muscle and bone. your small biceps and other muscles get bigger and bigger. your knuckles or bones on you hand or feet-legs get bigger and bigger as u punch ice or bamboo trees or kick bamboo trees as u "bend it back and forth", use it. BOTH inorganic (like metal) and organic material (cells) suffers fatigue (like metal fatigue with airplanes or any metal structure and fatigue of a human when they do physical activity u get tired and worn out just like the metal in an airplane gets tired and worn out with activity and use). the difference is that organic material has a society already built into it by nature or a god or whatever with robots and machines to come and repair the damage. within metal itself there is no such society of robot and machines to repair the damage. now humans can make robots and machines to repair other machines and robots and metal (recycling, melting down damaged metal and repairing-making a new sheet of metal). i'm also sure that humans are trying to find a way to put into metal itself the same society of robots and machines that would allow the metal to repair itself jsut as the human body can, but this science-technology is still in its infancy. i think the closest we have right now is the memory metal.
in short organic material is really amazing. where inorganic material gets weaker with use and time (take a metal paperclip and bend it back and forth, what happens? it snaps. the metal snaps and breaks), organic material (like bone, muscle, and the brain) gets bigger and stronger, not weaker.
but i'm getting side-tracked here, back to the point of all this:
fractals show us the ingenious-ness of nature. u take a simple pattern and repeat it to create complex structures. take a forest, thats really complex and its impossible to understand how it came to be arranged the way it is right? WRONG. look at a single tree's structure, shape, dimensions, proportionality, placement and than look at an entire forest and guess what the forest is simple many that individual tree metrics repeated over and over again. the distance between branches on the individual tree is the same as the distance between trees in a forest. this is a pretty recent discovery and has enormous application and use.
a single blue print of dna gives us the simpliest life like bacteria, repeat that blueprint over and over and u get humans.
a take a tree and repeat that tree over and over and u have the layout of an entire forest. another way to visualize it is this: take a tree and lay it on the ground. guess what? you'll find trees rising out of the ground at the exact same vertexies as your imaginary tree shape laying on the ground.
u take humans using machines and robots to do stuff like build cars and at the same time we find at the cellular level within our body "something" is using the same method of machines and robots to repair our body.
a simple pattern or system or struture used by itself to create simple things or repeated over and voer to create complex things.
this is the fractal concept. it be stupid to try to make a complex human. its much easier and more efficient to use the same simple pattern for a simple life form and repeat it over and over to make a complex human. why try to re-invent life. just take your most basic life and repeat over and over and magically u now have organs repeat it again and u got organ systems repeat again and u got an organism...etc...
in fact, your cell phones and black berrys and any gps communication system is possible thanks to fractals.
within every cell phone is a micro-antena, but the secret was to take a normal straight antena and to bend it over and over into a small structure. this increases the surface area of the antenna and makes it more powerful and gave us our cell phones.
which gets us into the clock theory:
does the clock exist (is there really complex things in this world that we will never understand) or is the clock merely a system or pattern of gears that gives us the illusion of a magical "clock". are humans magically unique or are we simply a bunch of "gears" in a system or pattern that gives the illusion of the human organism or being ?
fractals seems to finally ended the clock theory debate by proving how simple patterns ("gears") when repeated over and over, gives rise to what we see as complex things ("clocks") and shows us how that is possible and real, even though there's really no such thing as a magically "clock" or a "human being or awareness-consciousness-mind-thought"
yet, what or "who" made this discovery that seems to give us our entire universe and used it, long before humans came into existance and plagerized this system which allowed us to create our machines and robots and computers, even though the unierse already had its own machines and robots and computers first. "who" or what came up with the concept and application of simple patterns repeated over and over again to give us more and more complex structures that we are discovering more and more prominent in the universe.
take for example "star dust" (elements like simple hydrogen) and through fusion add another proton and u get hellium. add more protons through more fusion and energy and u get heavier elements which than causes a super nova sending out the heavier elements into space. gravity pulls the heavier elements together into "clouds" (nebulas) or into meteors or comets or even planets. in nebulas new stars are born repeating the process. than one of those planets will come to be named earth by the human life that arises on it. the same star dust that made stars, made planets, and even made humans. we (stars, planets, humans, life) are all simply stardust.
and this is possible all because of fractals. take a simple pattern, the atom with a single proton (hydrogen) and innitually through fusion u add protons (or atoms teogether) giving rise to complex heavier and heavier elements. these heavier and heavier elements come together to make planets and even life on one of those planets (earth).
its fascinating how the simple pattern of the atom-proton being repeated over and over (fusion-bonded together, adding protons or joining atoms) gives us both simple helium, complex uranium, and even complex DNA, brains, and entire human beings.
thats the fractal concept. humans and everything complex are the results of taking a simple pattern, system, or structure, or thing and repeating it over and over that seems to create the magically complex thing like a human or a forest or a cellphone or the organs or whatever in a body.
isn't it amusing that at the simplified level that the atomic struture is the exact same as the solar system's structure. yes, there's the atomic structure is much more complicated than your rings (solar system) but maybe the solar system is in orbitals too. with string theory and multiple dimensions and warping of space or the connection of space and hyper space etc...
to wrap it all up, the universe/multiverse is one giant matrix. but is it being controlled by something or someone or is it simply a result of fractals of a simple pattern repeated over and over again to give us the illusion of an entire universe/multiverse ???
