Houton gun dealer urging people to pack 'more heat' vs Katricians

Dirty_Zulu

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Houton gun dealer urging people to pack 'more heat' vs Katricians

OUSTON — When the "Katricians" rise up in violence, Houstonians had better be packing some serious heat.

That's the inflammatory message of a new gun-shop commercial on the radio that gives Hurricane Katrina evacuees a vaguely alien-sounding name, and advises Texans to take up arms to defend themselves against crimes committed by the newcomers.

"When the 'Katricians' themselves are quoted as saying the crime rate is gonna go up if they don't get more free rent, then it's time to get your concealed-handgun license," warns the radio ad by Jim Pruett, who co-hosts a bombastic talk-radio show and owns Jim Pruett's Guns & Ammo, a self-styled "anti-terrorist headquarters" that sells knives, shotguns, semi-automatic rifles and other weapons. As Pruett describes the dangers posed by "Katricians," glass can be heard shattering, and a bell tolling ominously.

The radio spot highlights what many gun-store owners say is a hot trend in Houston: trade in weapons amid a surge in the homicide rate that police attribute to the more than 100,000 hurricane evacuees still in the city. Though the gun sale reports are largely anecdotal, Texas officials said applications for concealed-weapons permits were up statewide: 60,328 from Jan. 1 to Sept. 1 this year, compared with 46,298 for the same period last year.

The Houston Police Department estimates that one in five homicides in the city now involves Katrina evacuees — as suspect, victim or both. Many Houston residents, including some evacuees, are worried that crime will only get worse once housing and other public assistance end.
Best line is in bold.

Why are people so paranoid? People predicting crime will go up when public assistance ends just means they believe certain people are more likely to be criminals than other.

Instead of offering disaster victims the barrel end of a gun, they should offer social programs.
 

bladesyz

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Why do people think guns are going to defend them from crimes? Criminals will almost always have the advantage of surprise, and if ordinary citizens carry guns, you'll be sure all the criminals will be packing heat, and they will know how to use it too. Criminals will always be better armed than ordinary citizens who just want to go about their normal lives. Promoting guns just causes more violence.
 

HAMC8112

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bladesyz said:
Why do people think guns are going to defend them from crimes? Criminals will almost always have the advantage of surprise, and if ordinary citizens carry guns, you'll be sure all the criminals will be packing heat, and they will know how to use it too. Criminals will always be better armed than ordinary citizens who just want to go about their normal lives. Promoting guns just causes more violence.
I am not sure as to what you are trying to say. Criminals have guns so citizens should not be armed?
 

llad12

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It sounds like Mr. Pruett wants to move some of his weapons inventory and is utilizing the fear factor as an advertising tool.
 

HAMC8112

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llad12 said:
It sounds like Mr. Pruett wants to move some of his weapons inventory and is utilizing the fear factor as an advertising tool.
The American way!

:smiley:
 

AeroJonesy

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Makes sense to me. I wouldn't want these people in my city bringing all that crime with them. If I lived in Houston, I'd keep a loaded gun next to my bed.
 
bladesyz said:
Why do people think guns are going to defend them from crimes?
I've use my firearms several times to prevent crimes. The simple act of jacking a round in a scattergun is one hell of a cirme deterrant. Then there is the countless instances of other people preventing crimes with thier firearms. The web is full of news articles of it happening.

Ask yourself, are you willing to put a sign on your front door that reads "I'm unarmed, this is a gun-free zone"?

Criminals will almost always have the advantage of surprise, and if ordinary citizens carry guns, you'll be sure all the criminals will be packing heat, and they will know how to use it too.
What makes you think we're weak and incapable of violence ourselves? You cannot suprise somebody that expects to be assaulted whenever he's out in public. You cannot expect criminals to be smart enough to think everything through. I expect to be mugged whenever I go downtown at night. It's a rare crime but if you're not looking for it, it can happen. Somebody could step out of an alley with a pistol, what do you do? Do you expect him to be willing to fire immediately? I don't. A criminal is a coward, he's not looking to shoot me. However I'm expecting to have to whup somebody. I know that I can whip my hat off, slap a hand more than a foot out of alignment and deliver a crushing blow to a knee faster than you can overcome your natural resistance to taking a life. I know this because I've practiced the move and have studied the average time it takes for somebody to become willing to fire. I'm faster and a hell of a lot more aggressive because I'm always ready to attack.

Criminals will always be better armed than ordinary citizens who just want to go about their normal lives. Promoting guns just causes more violence.
That's purely ignorant bull****. Do you have any idea of what you're talking about? No, you don't. You're spouting off anti-gun propaganda without having done a lick of research. The old adage about an armed society is a polite one goes back a long time. Who in their right mind is going to go around commiting crimes where everybody is armed? That's a good way to get shot.

HAMC8112 said:
I am not sure as to what you are trying to say. Criminals have guns so citizens should not be armed?
That's exactly what he's saying. In his world, we're already doomed, might as well give it up. If you do anything you're just going to die. Bull****. I'm fighting back. With better aim, better firepower and a greater willingness to create pain, death, destruction and woe. He'd rather surrender and die than fight.
 

Yaboosh

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bladesyz said:
Why do people think guns are going to defend them from crimes? Criminals will almost always have the advantage of surprise, and if ordinary citizens carry guns, you'll be sure all the criminals will be packing heat, and they will know how to use it too. Criminals will always be better armed than ordinary citizens who just want to go about their normal lives. Promoting guns just causes more violence.

Because studies say that guns work to defend from crime?

http://www.guncite.com/gcdgklec.html

As for criminals living in projects, I would say it more appropriately by suggesting that the projects create criminals, but hey, I guess that is semantics.
 

Dirty_Zulu

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Did anyone read this part?

The Houston Police Department estimates that one in five homicides in the city now involves Katrina evacuees — as suspect, victim or both.
That could also mean Houstonians are shooting up Katrinians. Who's really the victims here? Last thing we need is more gun toting Houstonians shooting up displaced people.

Btw, who's faster? A criminal with a gun drawn with the element of suprise or someone with a gun in the holster and talking on the cell phone?
 

Lostprophet

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Dirty_Zulu said:
That could also mean Houstonians are shooting up Katrinians. Who's really the victims here? Last thing we need is more gun toting Houstonians shooting up displaced people.
Hey man, who was there first?
 
Dirty_Zulu said:
That could also mean Houstonians are shooting up Katrinians. Who's really the victims here? Last thing we need is more gun toting Houstonians shooting up displaced people.
That's a crock of **** and you know it. Houston's crime rate was steady until the influx of refugees. Immediately afterwards the cirme rate skyrocketed. Do you mean to try to tell us that all of a sudden, the people of Houston jsut started becoming a lot more violent all of a sudden? You know better than that
 

Yaboosh

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If you see a large influx of lower class people in hard times, you are going to see a jump in crime. Imagine that.
 

Lostprophet

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ECI said:
Do you mean to try to tell us that all of a sudden, the people of Houston jsut started becoming a lot more violent all of a sudden?
Do you mean to try and tell us that all of a sudden you don't understand the concept of an influx of people scaring an already established group in that area and becoming violent toward the intruders all of a sudden?
 

WhipsmartMcCoy

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Set phasers for "fun!"

In the debate over whether or not the Katrinians are a peaceful or hostile people, isn't there an episode we can refer to for reference? "Cut them some slack, their home planet was destroyed." I'm just glad our government is still on top of this whole hurricane thing.

Man, the Scorpions must feel terrible.
 

Dirty_Zulu

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Evil Conservative Inc said:
That's a crock of **** and you know it. Houston's crime rate was steady until the influx of refugees. Immediately afterwards the cirme rate skyrocketed. Do you mean to try to tell us that all of a sudden, the people of Houston jsut started becoming a lot more violent all of a sudden? You know better than that
Didn't you read the above report that says the statistics includes Katrinians being victims of homicide?
 

Talga Vasternich

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Wooooohoooo!!!!
Another gun thread :rolleyes:

I'll go on record for this and say farewell to this thread.
I'm all for the right and ability of John and Jane Q. Public to own and carry guns in America. Countless studies and statistics confirm that areas of America that have armed populations and concealed-carry laws have less crime.
Dirty_Zulu said:
Didn't you read the above report that says the statistics includes Katrinians being victims of homicide?
Suspects too. I'm sure the displaced Katrinians were just sitting there peacefully and a Houston resident came up and shot them.
 

AeroJonesy

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So we should feel more sorry because when they commit armed robbery in someone's home and the home owner shoots the asshole dead, the Katrinian is counted as a victim?

Just because they lost their homes doesn't mean they need to kill or rob.
 
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