HopeinChange - Obama's 2009 Budget Proposal

[Stoutwood]

Re: HopeinChange - Obama's 2009 Budget Proposal

That nuclear power thing pisses me off. The dems I voted for this year were all for it. Seems I can't win no matter who I vote for.

 

[thumpasorus]

Re: HopeinChange - Obama's 2009 Budget Proposal

I'm not sure it matters who is in power. The anti-nuclear folks have spread their propaganda much better than the nuclear industry and the politics takes care of the rest.

 

[Glurin]

Re: HopeinChange - Obama's 2009 Budget Proposal

That nuclear power thing pisses me off. The dems I voted for this year were all for it. Seems I can't win no matter who I vote for.

Nobody in government represents the people anymore, democrat or republican. They are just doing whatever they want to, and its killing America.

Not that doing whatever they want is anything new. Its just a hell of a lot more pronounced now.

 

[jmervyn]

Re: HopeinChange - Obama's 2009 Budget Proposal

And in times of crisis, it is especially important that everyone be free to speak their mind.

Only when the subject of criticism is conservative in nature. C'mon, AJ, you've been at this long enough. :crazyeyes:

 

[Garbad_the_Weak]

Re: HopeinChange - Obama's 2009 Budget Proposal

Besides, this nation was built on the ability to criticize the government. And in times of crisis, it is especially important that everyone be free to speak their mind.

No one is trying to pass the sedition acts. Let's be clear on this -- the issue isn't free speech, its if Obama is persuaded. So far the answer is no.

 

[Dondrei]

Re: HopeinChange - Obama's 2009 Budget Proposal

Shocking deficits, with big tax increases coming on the wealthy and higher medicare premiums.

It's almost like we're in a financial crisis or something. And how the hell can you blame a guy who's been in office for five seconds for the deficit?

At the same time, he is thrashing conservative pork (nuclear power, defense, farming subsidies, small business) while increasing liberal pork (healthcare, making not working pay more, capping emissions, etc).

Hmm, liberal gets elected and diverts funds away from traditional conservative spending and into traditional liberal spending. Someone call the Supreme Court!

But let's face it, at least tax cuts have a rational and empirical link to GDP increases, and only GDP increases will improve our standard of living.

Yeah, but if you give all that money to the people in the current climate they'll just stuff it in a mattress, it won't do jack to stimulate the economy. That's the point of these packages, it has nothing to do with raising the standard of living.

I also think Obama doesn't know how to stop campaigning.

The campaign only finished like yesterday... gee, it's almost as if you made up your mind how you're going to feel about Obama ahead of time. Imagine that.

While our banks suffer, China's bank profits are up 30%.

China is going to slump big time when the demand for sweatshop **** dries up. It's already happening.

I can't see how they're supposedly going to overtake the West and become this all-powerful economic superpower when everything they have they stole from us, and everything they earn comes from selling stuff to us.

Nobody in government represents the people anymore, democrat or republican.

What are you talking about? Nuclear power is unpopular, political parties not supporting it isn't unrepresentative, it's the exact opposite.

 

[SaroDarksbane]

Re: HopeinChange - Obama's 2009 Budget Proposal

What are you talking about? Nuclear power is unpopular, political parties not supporting it isn't unrepresentative, it's the exact opposite.

Really?

In my admittedly anecdotal experience, most opposition that I've seen is NIMBYism, and not against the concept of nuclear power in general.

 

[jmervyn]

Re: HopeinChange - Obama's 2009 Budget Proposal

I noticed Donny has performed his regular "spooge over every thread" routine...

It's almost like we're in a financial crisis or something. And how the hell can you blame a guy who's been in office for five seconds for the deficit?

Perhaps because he's directly responsible for increasing it by a pretty massive factor?

Just like I don't blame him for the economic slump, but I'm damn well blaming him for my losing $40K rather than a lower amount.

It's amateur hour, and this feckin' clown thinks the appropriate response is pedal to the metal on disastrous concepts. I think yesterday was the first time he's said anything resembling positive? And after the public stops buying his BLCD excuses, he & the Congresscritters will stand around with confused looks on their faces wondering why people hate them so.

I think I already said it on this forum: Those who forget history... voted for Obama.

 

[Garbad_the_Weak]

Re: HopeinChange - Obama's 2009 Budget Proposal

And how the hell can you blame a guy who's been in office for five seconds for the deficit?

Because he made the single largest contribution to it?

 

[vdzele]

Re: HopeinChange - Obama's 2009 Budget Proposal

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[Garbad_the_Weak]

Re: HopeinChange - Obama's 2009 Budget Proposal

As long as I get my blood, boobs, and free health care I could give a **** about my liberty, security, and prosperity.

/sigh =/

P.S. Obama is changing everything, and we better hope it works. =(

 

[jmervyn]

Re: HopeinChange - Obama's 2009 Budget Proposal

It won't. It never has. Which is why I made the crack about learning history.

Because he made the single largest contribution to it?

Nyah-nyah, beat you to it.

 

[thumpasorus]

Re: HopeinChange - Obama's 2009 Budget Proposal

What are you talking about? Nuclear power is unpopular, political parties not supporting it isn't unrepresentative, it's the exact opposite.

And here's the conundrum (OK, one of them) with democracy: When the wishes of your constituents are in conflict with their best interests, you have to weigh your continued employment vs. the issue in question.

 

[AeroJonesy]

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The campaign only finished like yesterday... gee, it's almost as if you made up your mind how you're going to feel about Obama ahead of time. Imagine that.

The election was 4 months ago.

And are you seriously suggesting that I shouldn't comment on Obama's present activity because he still draws breath? In that case, your comments about me are just as dumb because I haven't finished my life. You're awfully judgmental for someone taking the stance that you shouldn't judge someone until they are done.

 

[Module88]

Re: HopeinChange - Obama's 2009 Budget Proposal

The election was 4 months ago.

And are you seriously suggesting that I shouldn't comment on Obama's present activity because he still draws breath? In that case, your comments about me are just as dumb because I haven't finished my life. You're awfully judgmental for someone taking the stance that you shouldn't judge someone until they are done.

Don't suppose anyone's keeping a running tab on how much he's spent or is proposing to spend in the near future since his inauguration? I stopped counting. :unimpressed:

 

[Dondrei]

Re: HopeinChange - Obama's 2009 Budget Proposal

Really?

In my admittedly anecdotal experience, most opposition that I've seen is NIMBYism, and not against the concept of nuclear power in general.

What do you mean the concept? The idea of getting power from a source and using it?

The justification is irrelevant anyway, nuclear power is unpopular and that was what I was saying.

Because he made the single largest contribution to it?

Yeah, okay.

http://static.scribd.com/profiles/images/auw7rfzmnovul-full.gif

And he actually has a reason to initiate a deficit. Plus he's inherited all that debt along with the ongoing $200b war effort that so far has acheived absolutely nothing.

Or maybe you intended to use future tense instead of past... I guess you have AJ Obama Obsession Syndrome as well.

The election was 4 months ago.

And are you seriously suggesting that I shouldn't comment on Obama's present activity because he still draws breath? In that case, your comments about me are just as dumb because I haven't finished my life. You're awfully judgmental for someone taking the stance that you shouldn't judge someone until they are done.

Ahead of him actually doing anything. You've been wailing to the heavens about him since the moment the election finished, and so far he hasn't had time to do anything more than make proposals.

 

[SaroDarksbane]

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What do you mean the concept?

Nuclear power itself. As opposed to a new coal plant belching smoke or some such.

The justification is irrelevant anyway, nuclear power is unpopular and that was what I was saying.

And I was saying that in my experience, it isn't. I was hoping you'd provide me with some reason to take your opinion on the matter, rather than just restating said opinion.

 

[Garbad_the_Weak]

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http://static.scribd.com/profiles/images/auw7rfzmnovul-full.gif

So you think building an 800 billion deficit in 8 years while fighting two wars should be more alarming than building a 1.75 trillion deficit in 3 months while pulling out?

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-02/27/content_10905283.htm

 

[AeroJonesy]

Re: HopeinChange - Obama's 2009 Budget Proposal

Ahead of him actually doing anything. You've been wailing to the heavens about him since the moment the election finished, and so far he hasn't had time to do anything more than make proposals.

That's so wrong I don't even know where to begin. Maybe you should brush up on what's actually been going on over here.

 

[jmervyn]

Re: HopeinChange - Obama's 2009 Budget Proposal

Ahead of him actually doing anything. You've been wailing to the heavens about him since the moment the election finished, and so far he hasn't had time to do anything more than make proposals.

Well, that and running the Dow into a 50% loss by being an absolute wanker.

http://static.scribd.com/profiles/images/auw7rfzmnovul-full.gif

So you think building an 800 billion deficit in 8 years while fighting two wars should be more alarming than building a 1.75 trillion deficit in 3 months while pulling out?

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-02/27/content_10905283.htm

Hey Einstein (Donny)! That the graph is not only a year old, but isn't the total budget.

That's so wrong I don't even know where to begin. Maybe you should brush up on what's actually been going on over here.

You're still presuming that Donny is actually Australian, rather than just an American troll. For all I know he's the same nebbish who claimed to be Jennifer Walcott over on the GW OTF.