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Holy Fire Zealots: Am I Missing Something?

Discussion in 'Single Player Forum' started by Crunchy Frog, Jun 16, 2005.

  1. Crunchy Frog

    Crunchy Frog IncGamers Member

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    Holy Fire Zealots: Am I Missing Something?

    I've noticed several posts from people who are playing or intending to play Holy Fire zealots in SP, and I'm a little confused, because Holy Fire seems inferior to both Holy Freeze and Holy Shock for a zealot: The added damage from fully synergized Holy Fire is lower than either of the other two, and you don't have the slowing effect of Holy Freeze. Holy Fire for a ranger I understand, but for a zealot? Am I missing some hidden advantage? :confused:

    Thanks,
    Crunchy Frog
     
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    essojay IncGamers Member

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    The damage isn't that bad after the synergies (resist fire and salvation). Still inferior to HS in damage and HF in cool effects, but viable nonetheless.
     
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    No, there really isnt any advantage of playing a holy fire pally over a frost of shock pally, and by 'several posts' you mean 1 really. ;)
     
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    AlterEgo IncGamers Member

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    Some people play builds because they are (or at least seem) fun, not because there is an advantage.

    *raises hand*
     
  5. Crunchy Frog

    Crunchy Frog IncGamers Member

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    Thanks, and besides the post we're both thinking about, I remember seeing a couple of people...well, at least one person...say he was going to play one in a tourney....

    Hmmmm...

    Uh...it all depends on what your definition of several is. ;)
     
  6. Crunchy Frog

    Crunchy Frog IncGamers Member

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    Sounds reasonable, sayeth the long-time fan of untwinked rangers and hunter druids.
     
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    Crunchy Frog IncGamers Member

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    Hmmm, I could see a hybrid fire ranger / zealot as having possibilities. Thank you.
     
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    Darkwell IncGamers Member

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    Ever play an untwinked viper?
     
  9. Crunchy Frog

    Crunchy Frog IncGamers Member

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    No, but I just viped my vindows.

    Vhat is a viper, please?
     
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    Darkwell IncGamers Member

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    Venom bowassin, check out the asn forum. Their alot of fun and a 'sin is sexy hot with a bow.
     
  11. Crunchy Frog

    Crunchy Frog IncGamers Member

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    Ah - thanks. I tried one, but came down with a slight case of dead before the good skills kicked in. I'll take a look.
     
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    Not really an advantage, but I wanted instant gratification after playing some more frustrating slower-developing characters (at least on /p8). However now that I'm doing it, I can see that Holy Freeze wouldn't have been that terrible a wait anyhow. ;)
     
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    Ignoring Price and Inaccesability... this could be a fun build

    Pheonix Zerker Axe
    100% Chance To Cast level 40 Blaze When You Level-up
    40% Chance To Cast Level 22 Firestorm On Striking
    Level 13 Redemption Aura When Equipped
    +350-400% Enhanced Damage (varies)
    -28% To Enemy Fire Resistance
    +350-400 Defense Vs. Missile (varies)
    +50 To Life
    +5% To Maximum Lightning Resist
    +10% To Maximum Fire Resist
    +15-21 Fire Absorb (varies)

    Dragonscale
    +(170-200)% Enhanced Defense
    Fire Absorb (10-20)%
    +5% to Maximum Fire Resist
    +(15-25) to Strength
    +10 to Hydra
    +15% to Fire Skill Damage
    Adds 211-371 Fire Damage

    with some nicely placed Facets and who knows what else... it'd be fun in the world of imaginary :thumbsup:
     
  14. RevenantThePaladin

    RevenantThePaladin IncGamers Member

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    IIRC +15% to fire skill damage works twice like sorc's fire mastery on enchant. That's ~32% to fire damage (but only when going melee). Plus 211-371 from the shield itself (though you would get that without Holy Fire)
    But the shield is rather rare and is rather weak compared to HoZ

    Edit: removed Dragonscale stats as SincereX13 already posted about that while I was typing
     
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    Darkwell IncGamers Member

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    That's the challenge. I've killed 3 hc ones in 4 weeks, lvl 31,52 and 55. At least I'm getting better.
     
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    Understood. I'll try one when my current character kacks it. (I say when because he's an experimental HC untwinked SoB / Thorns hunter druid - kinda hard to buy life insurance for. ;) )
     
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    I know what you mean. My premiums went up again with the last death. Do you find untwinked hc addicting?

    Thorns/hunter?.....good luck with that.
     
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    Absolutely. The victories mean so much more when the penalty for defeat is so high. Also, winning is a test of skill, not blind persistance or a big wallet.

    Oh, I'm sure I'll make it to Guardian in a couple of weeks. BTW, want to buy some oceanfront land in Nebraska?
     
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    As others have pointed out, fun counts too. Get a Kuko or Demon Machine for your weapon switch, and you could have a powerful hybrid character.
     
  20. DurfBarian

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    My fifth untwinked CB sorc begs to differ. :p
     

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