Help with PvP PvM WWsin

adplaya

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Help with PvP PvM WWsin

I would like to make an assn that can handle pvm, but still be able to be a decent pvp. Most of my charcters are built to be used for any activity. May it be uber, dueling, or just key runing. So, likewise i would like my WWsin to be the same. If some one could help i would appreciate it.
 

mephiztophelez

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errr...
my ww/trap hybrid can PvM quite happily with a few equipment changes. most notably, switching out my fools claw for a Strength claw for some crushing blow and sometimes switching my fcr circlet for a Guillaumes. i certainly wouldn't want to try and solo Ubers with that 'sin (although it would probably be possible). i also find i play PvM as a kick/trapper and rarely use ww.

my old shadow-based ww/kick build would make essentially the same equipment changes and would pvm as a Kicker, useing Death sentry as her main killing skill.

neither of these builds can PvM quite as effectivly as my PvM built kick/trapper.

in short, with a point in d-talon & death sentry along with some CB in your setup, there shouldn't be any major drama's taking a pvp-sin pvm. Ubers is a slightly different story as massive res-stack is a little harder to come by on an enigma wearing ghost than on a non-enigma pvm sin.
 

adplaya

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Ok so wut your telling me is i can use the PvM builds available in this section and with a lil' equip change i can become pvp. If so, could you direct me to the one you think best suits what i am looking for.

The Gear set-up i have for her is as follows:
Armor: Bramble
Ammy: highlords
Gloves: Dracs/trangs
Boots: Gores
Ring1: Ravenfrost
Ring2: Undecided
Claw1: Chaos
Claw2: Fury
Helm: Undecided


i think this is wut i need? http://strategy.diabloii.net/news.php?id=552
 
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HappyAssassin

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No. What we are saying is that you can use one of the PvP builds and with a few equipment changes become PvM.

Pure bramblesins do not work very well for PvP. They are slow and vulnerable and are generally much less effective overall than teleporting assassins. I'd recommend either TienJe's ghost, Speederlander's WW/Kicksin or my own WW/Trapsin build (this is a somewhat different type of WWsin that uses traps). To PvM, you need to add crushing blow for your kicks. You can do this through a claw (strength), or by switching to a Last Wish Phase Blade/Storm Shield (fleshripper works too but you'll need Dracs). With life tap and good DR/Resists you can take down the ubers with your fast kicks and CB. With Death Sentry you can kill packs pretty fast. If you're a WW/Trapper you'll be more efficent against large groups of monsters, whereas a pure sin will be better against single opponents. Keep in mind, these chars are not cut out to be utility characters, they are mostly good at killing other players. A paladin will be much better vs. most PvM.
 

adplaya

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Damn. My zealer owns anything in his path, and i guess i shouldnt compare the two. But yes i agree that bramble is not the best choice, but i have a spare nigma on her for special occasions, so that wont be an issue. Anyway, back to the issue. The guide i posted above previously..would you say is a good build? I am looking for pure melee, no charge up attack assn. I mean kicks are fine, but if i do incorporate them it would be with left overs. The guide i posted is where i am really headed.
 
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