Help with PoisonNova-Bone spear please

[ploves]

Help with PoisonNova-Bone spear please

Hello everybody!

I am new to necromancers,this is about you guys giving me information and advices for my poison nova-bone spear skills. First off,is this skill combination possible to be strong?I read on blizzards site, about comparing Bone Spirit vs Bone Spear.I like to play only pvm-no pvp whatsoever. On their site,in comparison said Bone Spear can Overdue Spirit-in damage(above skill level +40) That is something I can accomplish. Plus i like to kill crowds not one by one.
I've already been collecting my items!this is what I have him carry on him, and in his stash: Shako;mara,bramble(44%),lidless,arach,2 sojs, Death's web, Homonuculous,3 PnB gc,torch,anni.

My biggest concern is still to come. I have played diablo a lot-never necromancers. That's not it tho! The problem is, I have had many characters rushed-or rushed myself on 2 computers And i got bored of the game this way. I want to be walking-working my way through the game. From Quest to Quest-which is still only half my issue! Well I am doing this,I would like someone to(perhaps),tell me, to accomplish my final goal:a deadly (poison nova-bone spear) necromancer, as i go through the game, which skill to pick-and WHEN.

I would really appreciate all the inputs!

his nameoison-Potion
- Ploves

 

[Mad Mantis]

With the fall of the Marrowwalk bug that combo is not as hot as it was. You need a lot of synergies for both to be effective. Bone needs almost all your skill points. Poison need sixty of them. You'll end up with one really strong attack and a really weak secondary attack.

 

[mystified]

well if you are going pvm, it probably is better idea to go all in psn. You can get rid of a lot ofimmunities with LR, and it is a lot of fun all packed nicely.

since you only need 60 skills, you have skills left over too. Putting these in bone skills are not the most effective, as maxed synergy nova will mean like [email protected] dmg at max for spear/spirit.
instead, spend these pts on bone wall and bone prison to increase your bone armor effectiveness (bonewall also helps to tank and attract monsters from screens away) or spent the pts in 20 skellies and 20 in mastery. With LR and all, the completion of all skill points for summons are not possible, but you get general idea of summon stuffs/nova then blow everything to oblivion with CE. Works wonders too in CS where all the fun is. (try there using -res psn mancer, specialised in bonewall. its dangerous hence fun)

 

[ploves]

thanks guys!

you guys both say not enough points to use. But guys, I have shako(2),mara(2),bramble,2 sojs,arach,torch,anni, Death's Web (+2),3 gcs,-with this thats +18 skills already-so if i was to use only 1-maybe a couple points in synergies. Would that still leave me weak?.thanks guys!

 

[mystified]

well lets say fully synergies bspear/spirit hardly scratches monsteres in hell at lv 40+
it is not like hammers or FB or blizz. it takes time to kill one monster than you have to amp + CE for mass kill.
This requires a lot of synergy too. It just is not feasible when going hybrid setting, especially losing +2 skills and tele from eni.

although it becomes a lot more feasible when you go nova + summon since now you will benefit from thorns aura (somewhat anyway..) and npva dmg is increased. That said, I prefere eni's mobility.

in short, yeah even with your + skills, bone skills just don't cut it if you go hybrid and thinking of pvm.
if you want pvm, and stil wamnt this hybridm i recomment you to look for some serious magic stuffs (3p&b 20 FCR helm, 3p&b ammy, 3 p&b nec shield with secondary like 3 nova, 3 spear, 3 spirit etc) and socketing them with psn jewels, and let go of bramble.
or if you prefer bramble, then less synergy in nova side, (about <40 skills are to be spent in that side) and rest to spear, spirit and bonewall ( with curse, you are not going to be able to fully synergy 4th skill)
even like this, your psn dmg and bone dmg will suck. let's just say in full game with -res set up and at 10K nova dmg, it still requires some good control for nova nec to survive in hell CS run. you are gonna have less dmg so you are going to have to spend more time to deal dmg to monsters = slower killing

 

[Hektus]

He's right, your spear will still be hella weak - even with an inventory full of pnb gcs and two synergies maxed, bone spear is weak in p1 games and completely flacid in p2+ games. Nova with maxed synergies, however, kills mobs by the dozens in p7 games.. with bramble, of course. I'm poison/summon hybrid and actually wear bramble normally and have the nigma in my inventory, since i figure I can afford to give up two gc spaces and with a maxed nova the usual minionmancer telestomping of the IM casters isn't as necessary. When running wsk, switch to nigma/minions because of all the poison immunes and use your nova/ce as the utility.