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Help with Glass cannon

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  1. skinticket

    skinticket IncGamers Member

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    Help with Glass cannon

    Ok, so i have some questions:

    1.) Im really unsure where my skills are supposed to go to. Do i really need to max DAE? Where else should my stats go? I hear 1 to penetrate, 1 to pierce, 1 to valk, etc. etc.
    2.) Will Critical Strike work with PSN sc's? I heard they cancel eachother out but then i hear they dont.
    3.) do i really put all my attributes on Dex? My life is really low ( about 450 ).

    Thanks for the help guys.
     
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    Re: Help with Glass cannon

    1 - pvm? pvp? Either way, you don't max d/a/e and only put them to a certain level before diminishing returns. I believe its around 14 or 16.

    2 - Stupid rumor, it doesn't cancel anything out.

    3- "Glass cannon" for a reason though the better glass cannons will have about 600+life (Without bo)
     
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    Re: Help with Glass cannon

    Do you happen to know exactly where i should put them to? Should i put them to 14-16 including what my armor and everything gives me? or without? good to know about the psn and CS. Should i then max out my CS? Thanks again :)
     
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    Re: Help with Glass cannon

    Glass cannon builds rely on strong offense as their defense. With most if not all considerations (skill, stats, gear) set to maximize killing speed, you won't need defense at all.

    You don't need D/A/E for a glass cannon. Just 1 in each and you're ready. If monsters are able to get close to you then you are not playing glass cannons right.

    Regarding where to points skill into, you should post more what kind of build you want to play. Glass cannons can be multiple builds. Posting your gear also helps a lot.
     
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    Re: Help with Glass cannon

    if thats the case with DAE im gonna have to start over again or something. I put around 10 into them right now. That gives me like 20 with the extra skills from my gear. Im going for a PvP glass cannon bowzon.

    I dont have all my gear right now, but i will have it soon.

    Helm: gonna get that one helm with the IAS and stuff, you put like 3 jewels in it... i cant remember the name.
    Armor: AP Fort ( using ds enigma for the time being. )
    Bow: Faith 13/2/2
    Gloves: Using crafted gloves with life leach and knock back and other stuff but will eventually get something with kb and ias.
    Boots: Treks
    Rings: Still gotta get Ravenfrosts
    Ammy: Cats Eye
    Belt: Gotta get nos coil
    Anni: 15/16/8
    Torch: 16/20 Zon torch.

    As you can see ive still got a lot to go, but im getting there. Did i REALLY mess up my zon by putting up that much is DAE? I went by TienJe's guide for his skill placement ( a lot of people said to look at his guide ) I still have a decent ammount waiting to be put in.

    My attributes have went all to Dex, Im looking at 516 with my gear on as of right now. I still have 20 left at level **. Should i continue to put the rest in dex?

    Also, a lot of guides say to put some in multishot or strafe or something, but is that really needed as all i am going to use is guided arrow.
     
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    Re: Help with Glass cannon

    Start over, read the hybrid pvp guide. You will use more than just guided arrow esp if you plan to team pk.
     
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    Re: Help with Glass cannon

    but im really not trying to go for a hybrid, just bow....
     
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    Re: Help with Glass cannon

    It's not really that much a hybrid.. it's just a bow zon that has titan/ss on switch for increase survival. =/

    Fact: it's stronger than a pure bow in both survival/damage
     
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    Re: Help with Glass cannon

    Almost no one uses that much A/E/D skills hard points, Dex and Speed are your defense.
    Glass Cannon of all builds would seem like it describes its results well. But is pure form used for Bows only.

    Switch is stronger pure bow can't do lightning or block as noted and with LF you can pump guided if you want and 1 point strafe and multi-shot. Bows focus is Magic, cold, fire, Phys, PSN

    Theoretical damage - PSN Java can do the max on anything in the game.
    SSog posted it somewhere.
     
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    Re: Help with Glass cannon

    well i really havent used that much on DAE to tell you the truth. With all my gear on, i made it to the % that was told to get to in his guide. IT even says to get more. I really dont see what ive done wrong?
     
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    Re: Help with Glass cannon

    If your pure bow and no block on switch you are fine, what level did you say you were again?
    ** right?
    What are they after skills+?
     
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    Re: Help with Glass cannon

    yeah lvl **. Do you happen to have aim or on d2? id much rather talk on there.
     
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    Re: Help with Glass cannon

    Sry just droping my 2 cts in. See Yah in the OTF
     
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    Re: Help with Glass cannon

    sorry but what?! anyways my dodge = 9, avoide = 12 evade = 9 i believe. Then with all my armor they go up a ton making it the suggested % from the guide.
     
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    Re: Help with Glass cannon

    Tienje's PvP guide is not a glass cannon build.

    Tienje's PvP guide is sort of a hybrid with titans/ss on switch.

    You don't really need strafe for PvP. GA/multi for the win. Multi is useful in PvP for blind firing (goes more than what you can see in screen) with wide spread and also as anti-summons. You'll be using GA more though in combat situations.
     

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