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help with a BvC?

Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by The top ramen, Oct 1, 2006.

  1. The top ramen

    The top ramen IncGamers Member

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    help with a BvC?

    umm well im making a BvC barb and i looked through the guides and while i saw ww guides i didnt see any specific BvC guides. so im just wonderin if their like the same thing just with nigma and more res or what? also if u could list some good BvC gear that would be nice. and as for my skills what do i max? because ive heard u put points into leap for the knockback but ive also been told to never do that becuase its a waste of skill points.... so any help would be appreciated:azn:
     
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    matchuk IncGamers Member

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    max leap
    max bo
    max axe mastery
    max whirlwind
    5-7 natural speed
    1preq and 1point wonders
    rest u can go shout or nat res or watever

    griefz/beastz
    enigma mp
    coa ber ber
    trangs/dracs
    arach
    duel raven/duel fcr rings with mana /angelic setup
    tri res boots/gores
    highlords

    also demonslimb, kiras ort(or um), hsarus, duel doomz, widow(hel), fort?, treachury? arreat(40/15) in stash

    leap owns
     
  3. SicHalo

    SicHalo IncGamers Member

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    Btw u don't have to max leap 16-17 points is enought but this is upto user.

    Also u can go the pure vita route which means zero points into str but it also means u cannot wear a forti and more gear limited.
     
  4. Ce Olba

    Ce Olba Banned

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    Actually, 13 is the lowest option. I would always say 13, 14 or 20. 13 with Hsarus setup, 14 without Hsarus, 20 for best overall effect.

    And it also means you will need better skill vs some builds (hammerdins for example), plus it might limit your barb to a small area of gear.
     
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    I've never really found any good use of Fort, I know it's good vs some smiters and V/T's and mages and such, but they seem hard to catch without teleport.
     
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    Ce Olba Banned

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    And that's what Widowmaker is for, to make them come to you.
     
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    mainaman IncGamers Member

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    dont forget the grief need be 34+ias, the fcr rings
    should be something like 10 fcr/95+ ar/75+ mana/res
    for example mine are 10fcr/105+ar/80+mana/23 lr and 30 lr
    this gives gg stack against fohers for example
     
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    Ce Olba Banned

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    No. Having ar on FCR rings is not NECESSARY, but it's nice to have if you duel a lot with fcr rings.

    For example, my fcr rings are like 10 fcr/64 mana/70ar and 10 fcr/76mana/30 ar or so. One of the rings has a little LR and PR.

    I do perfectly fine with those, as most of the time I use trangs instead.
     
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    mainaman IncGamers Member

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    ofc it is neccessary , i duel hammerdins with those sometimes...
     
  10. Ce Olba

    Ce Olba Banned

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    It is NOT necessary. You should have enough brains not to duel hammerdins with such rings. (not meant as an offensive comment)

    If I meet a hammerdin a game with some casters, Trangs are the way to go. I've read about West being a realm where people do not bother with blocking though, so, whatever.

    You should know that the fcr rings are meant to be used vs. sorcs and necs, not the likes of hammerdins.
     
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    i play on west and pub duelers still block although some complain when they lose cos they dont block and say they are built vs casters
     
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    How funny.

    From your example it seems like everyone builds to duel vs. casters, which should make it so that there's a ton of casters there? Heh, nice place for a BvC I guess.
     
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    I've never really noticed complaining, but it's not unusual for my druid who is built against everything to kill a lot of BvC's and they use the excuse that they are only vs. caster. I tell them slap to on a COA and whatnot and they are good to go, but most can't afford the gear switches to be diverse duelers. The popularity of the build exceeds the general wealth I suppose.
     
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    Meh, it's true... I don't see many max block casters... Better for my BvC anyway...
     
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    most hammer in pubs on west do this
    desync ----------------------------------------------------------->
    <-----------------------------------------------------------------
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    across moor
    then pub is owned haha
     
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    Seems both boring and skilless.
     
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    yeah too bad that there are some hammerdins that will not let you use widowmaker and your onlyoption is to tele alot and play semioffensive aginst them in which case these rings help alot as they give me ~850 mana and ~8.5k ar with chant.
    by semioffensive i mean leap them before they start cast hammers, tele ww out of their range..
    anyway i strongly believe ar on caster rings helps, and by the way not too long ago there was a thread on the barb forum about what fcr rings ppl use so mcm posted his they had 120 ar both , I bet he didnt chose ar over other modes because its useless...and no offence taken by your post i like constructive arguing.
     
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    The top ramen IncGamers Member

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    i c thanx for the help everyone looks like this will be a more costly build than i imagined and i will have to spend a little more strength if i want the good gear switches in the stash but i think i can still do it. BTW if anyone on east ladder has a pretty good BvC if they could show me ill kiss u!

    my acc is *cj44705
     
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    ill wisper you
     
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    The top ramen IncGamers Member

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    ummm another thing when do u use fort as opposed to just enigma?
     

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