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  1. mhl12

    mhl12 Diabloii.Net Member

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    Help on solving a riddle!

    alright well, i found this riddle in my friend's profile and after hours of thinking and examing, i can't really get it and was wondering anyone here can help me solve it. so here it is:

    RIDDLE: read the whole thing first, there are no errors
    A detective chases two guys down after a reported robbery at a nearby jewelry store
    Detective: ur both under arrest
    The guy on the left: Now hold on officer, we didn't both commit the crime. One of us chickened out.
    Other guy: but one of us robbed the store
    Left: One of us tells the truth
    Other: and one of us lies
    Left: I didn't rob the bank
    Other: I didn't take the jewels
    Left: You missed our other accomplices, they left with the loot before you got here
    Other: I don't know what he's talking about, I was never involved in this crime
    Left: He's right, neither of us robbed the store
    Other: that's a lie. But sometimes, we switch roles and the truth teller tells lies while the liar tells the truth
    The detective immediately knew the guy on the left was involved with the crime. How did he know?

    It seems pretty tough, but i'm sure the answer is right there like almost all other riddles. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
     
  2. Amra

    Amra Diabloii.Net Member

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    That sealed it for me.
     
  3. Ev_

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    Shoot both and fake that they pulled a gun on you.
     
  4. Johnny

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    Bring in the Swedish piket police. They can beat them til they confess to every insolved case in the country.
     
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    If you look carefully you'll notice that the "left" one never mentions "jewlery store" he mentions not robbing a Bank and also not robbing a store (not jewlery store but a store). Also there's the "one of us tells the truth" line.
     
  6. Mecal

    Mecal Diabloii.Net Member

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    there's your answer.

    Other says "I didnt"
    Left says "yup, WE didnt"
     
  7. mhl12

    mhl12 Diabloii.Net Member

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    ok i get what you guys are saying but one of the guys is telling is telling to truth and one of them is lying. But whats really confusing is that sometimes they switch.. the other tells the truth while the other lies.

    Is the left guy telling the truth NOT counting that they switch?
     
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    Mecal Diabloii.Net Member

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    hmm, oh yeah.

    someone, make a chart! :xx:
     
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    but maybe he's lying that they sometimes switch.

    maybe he's lying that one of them lies. or that one of them tells the truth. it's so confusing, im just terrible at these things.
     
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    Ask what the other guy would say if you asked who robbed the store.

    The man who tells the truth will point out the guy who the liar would say did it, the wrong guy.

    The liar would answer the opposite of the truth and and again point out the wrong guy.

    There you go.
     
  11. dantose

    dantose Diabloii.Net Member

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    Situation 1: Left truth, right lies
    Left: Now hold on officer, we didn't both commit the crime. One of us chickened out.
    True
    Other guy: but one of us robbed the store
    Lie, "the store" was not robbed, the jewlry store was.
    Left: One of us tells the truth
    True
    Other: and one of us lies
    If lie then this method breaks down


    Situation 2: Left lies, Right tells the truth
    The guy on the left: Now hold on officer, we didn't both commit the crime. One of us chickened out.
    False, they both committed the crime
    Other guy: but one of us robbed the store
    true, store was robbed
    Left: One of us tells the truth
    False, logic breaks down

    Situation 3: Both lie
    The guy on the left: Now hold on officer, we didn't both commit the crime. One of us chickened out.
    False, they both committed the crime
    Other guy: but one of us robbed the store
    False, jewlry store was robbed, not "store"
    Left: One of us tells the truth
    False, neither tells truth
    Other: and one of us lies
    False, both lie
    Left: I didn't rob the bank
    False, Bank was also robbed
    Other: I didn't take the jewels
    False, jewels were also taken
    Left: You missed our other accomplices, they left with the loot before you got here
    False, No other accomplices, loot still there
    Other: I don't know what he's talking about, I was never involved in this crime
    False, was involved in crime
    Left: He's right, neither of us robbed the store
    False, both, or one robbed the store
    Other: that's a lie. But sometimes, we switch roles and the truth teller tells lies while the liar tells the truth
    If false, this chain of logic breaks down

    Situation 4 Variable but one always lies:
    The guy on the left: Now hold on officer, we didn't both commit the crime. One of us chickened out.
    False, they both committed the crime
    Other guy: but one of us robbed the store
    True, jewlry store was robbed, not "store"

    Left: One of us tells the truth
    This set of questions cannot follow the pattern.
    Other: and one of us lies
    This set of questions cannot follow the pattern

    I see no correct answer here.
     
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    {KOW}Spazed Banned

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    If you ask what the other guy would say if he was asked who committed the crime you will always get the wrong man.
     
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    RIDDLE: read the whole thing first,
    A detective chases two guys down after a reported robbery at a nearby jewelry store
    Detective: ur both under arrest
    The guy on the left: Now hold on officer, we didn't both commit the crime. One of us chickened out.
    Other guy: but one of us robbed the store

    Left: One of us tells the truth
    If he's tells truth, the other is a liar. If he's lying, then they are both liars aka, the right one always lies

    Other: and one of us lies
    This is a lie. Hence they both are liars.

    Left: I didn't rob the bank
    This is a lie hence he robbed the bank

    Other: I didn't take the jewels
    He took the Jewels

    Left: You missed our other accomplices, they left with the loot before you got here
    There are no acomplices

    Other: I don't know what he's talking about, I was never involved in this crime
    He helped

    Left: He's right, neither of us robbed the store
    At least one of them robbed

    Other: that's a lie. But sometimes, we switch roles and the truth teller tells lies while the liar tells the truth
    Just a lie

    The detective immediately knew the guy on the left was involved with the crime. How did he know?
     
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    Well, if both can lie at times, you really can't tell anything.
     

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