Help me!!!! uber trist warrior monk assa

osmosiss

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Help me!!!! uber trist warrior monk assa

Hi im following the uber trist warrior monk guide but i am issapointed about something i cant deal much damage at all can someone help me out with that please.

i am lvl 75 i have the last wish and chains of honor and ik belt and trang oul gloves and guillaums helm and raven frost ring like the guide said to have i also got a +1 shadow skills amulet and lidless shield.

my stats are : str-215 Dex-149 Vit-147 energy-base

i have:1553 defense
Blade fury with venom activated : 1223-1354 damage
Dragon talon with venom activated:285-418 damage

here is what i got as skills.
Traps-1 point bladefury like the guide says
martial arts-24 dragontalon
shadow - 24 venom and 24 fade

whats going on i dont get it i need help to improve my damage and i dont wanna make another char again an any donation is acceptable :D im a non ladder character called PvM-Ownage,
thanks
 

xeiral

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if i`m not wrong the main point of a uber kicker is fast speeds and for crushing blow to deal the dmg. Although the character screen shows low dmg. If u deal 6 kicks and all of them deals crushing blow.. the life of a mob drops really fast. if u wanna have higher dmg.. wear a up`d gored or dancers it show a little more dmg but it doesnt really make a diff as CB is the more impt factor here. also if u miss often.. stack up on AR charms.. they really help alot.
 

brokensvt

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if u wanna have higher dmg.. wear a up`d gored or dancers it show a little more dmg but it doesnt really make a diff as CB is the more impt factor here.
Although you were mostly correct, I take issue with the last statement. The damage on Myrmidon's makes a HUGE difference, as it's the only place where kick damage is heavily modified. After crushing blow does its thing and drops a monster's HP's by heavy percentages, the only way to swiftly finish them is raw damage. You won't get that anywhere but in your boots slot.



 

midevillw

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if u want info on the boots and how it works check the kicking basics guide

uped gores or shadowdancers are a must for your monk also your venom dmg is not displayed on your chr screen

this build is focosed on taking out one oponet at a time do not go after hords with hand to hand tactics. the blade fury is there for a reson because other wise u will b extreamly slow and excess kicks are wastes causing you to bog down and seam under powered.

what are your secondary weps?
 

Arbedark

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if u want info on the boots and how it works check the kicking basics guide

uped gores or shadowdancers are a must for your monk also your venom dmg is not displayed on your chr screen

this build is focosed on taking out one oponet at a time do not go after hords with hand to hand tactics. the blade fury is there for a reson because other wise u will b extreamly slow and excess kicks are wastes causing you to bog down and seam under powered.

what are your secondary weps?
Do you even think before you type a response?

Blade Fury is stuck at 6 frames per attack. Kicks can and SHOULD reach a 7/3 sequence. Which is FASTER than blade fury.

Also it's hardly a 1 opponent at a time build as with DS 1 or 2 corpses = a mass of dead monsters.



 

Zigot_HD

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Play it right and you will Own-pvM!!
Prebuff : Venom, bos or fade. Lay a few DS and COS, have a shadowmaster, then go kicking some @ss... and watch them die!!!
Upped gore / SDancers are very nice boots for this build. Some rare/imbued elite boots could be very good also.
If you can a hold of an infinity for your merc.... this will speed up the kill rate.
 

Senshiki

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Alright alright, I'll help you. I am Senshiki, named after my star character, who also happens to be a warrior monk. This is what you can do to help:

1. You should drop Trang gloves. Even if you only did 1 poison damage, Venom is a huge help in Uber's because poison cancels out their regeneration. Drop the Trangs for Laying of Hands, which will give you more speed and +350% damage to demons, which in the end will help more than the extra poison damage. Another option is Lavagout. Not only do you get the swing speed, but a good chance to cast Enchant, which will help your attack rating a lot since ITD doesn't apply to your kicks.

2. Drop the amulet you're wearing for Highlord's Wrath. Keep in mind, Last Wish has no Increased Attack Speed. Use the +Speed form Highlord's and your gloves to fix this. Plus, you get more deadly strike, and the extra boost to lightning resist will help versus Mephesto's Conviction aura.

3. Forget Lidless Wall. Go for a Stormshield. You got Last Wish and Chains, I assume you can afford a Stormshield. If not, maybe a Tiamat's Rebuke with a perfect diamond for good resists.

4. Drop the Immortal King belt, it is not helping you at all. Titan's Revenge would be a great choice, and the bonus to strength and vitality will make you more formidable.

5. Where are your points into Mind Blast and Shadow Master? Actually, scratch that. I found that with the proper gear I never needed the Shadow. My skill points were as follows:

Venom - 20
Blade Shield - 20
Dragon Talon - 20

Any other points are actually superfulus for this build if you do it right, but I also have some points into Mind Blast, Cloak of Shadows, and Death Sentry.

A nice tactic to make things MUCH easier for you is as follows: Since you have a Might aura with Last Wish, don't stop there. Get a Cold Arrow rogue mercenary, then put a Faith bow, Bramble armor, and Dream helm on her. Now you, your merc, and your Shadow all have Might, Fanatacism and Thorns. Also, the Fana and Might aura make your Blade Shield hurt even worse, making enemies get double punishment at once (Thorns + Blade Shield)

So hopefully that helps. With that advice I was able to solo hell WITHOUT A MERC OR A SHADOW but adding them makes things a bit easier. Good luck.
 

midevillw

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firstof all he said that his trap capabilites are only up to using a 1 point bf this indicates to me that he does not have death sentry.

with a maxed dragon talon added to gear and a few charms his number of kicks are proably around 6. moast of the foes that he is likely to come up agenst are not going to take a full barrage of dt if he can obtain the footware that makes this build shine.

if you have read the guide the bf is used to take out monsters in mass as the following stars will continue on after the first has taken out its target (altho u will not be actualy tasggeting the monster). meaning that u are getting the most out of this skill for effeceancy and simplicity of use that having to constantly select your target and then having to stand there wateing while you finish the animation before killing anything else.

dt is faster and hits more than the pallys zeal but unlike zeal it will only target the one foe not any in range of the skill. yes a fully synergized death sentry is a wonderful asset to the monk but if you do not have it, cannot use it, or in any other way are bared from it. simply kicking away with a turly max dragon talon can be slower than using a pair of upgraded bartuc and your one point dragon claw.

i know because i have the claws, i have the equipment, i have the monk, and im looking to remake her with a lower dragon talon because of this reason. my assassin is a lvl 82 monk i spent considerable time on her as she was not g-rushed but lvled normaly she was my main chr and i have been keeping her around for sentimenal reasons because of it.
 

PrkChopXpress

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Do you even think before you type a response?

Blade Fury is stuck at 6 frames per attack. Kicks can and SHOULD reach a 7/3 sequence. Which is FASTER than blade fury.

Also it's hardly a 1 opponent at a time build as with DS 1 or 2 corpses = a mass of dead monsters.
Before you start talking down to someone, you may want to follow your own advice and think before you type. If your dealing with bosses, than you're absolutely correct. But if you're dealing with mobs, a 7/3/3/3/3 kick sequence is a 19 frame attack on a single monster which will likely be dead somewhere in the middle of that sequence. In that same time frame, you could throw a blade at three or four different monsters (it could easily take the extra 5 frames to run up to another monster before you can start your next kick sequence).

Suggesting that BF is a faster mob killer than DTalon isn't really as stupid as you make it out to be.


 

Arbedark

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Before you start talking down to someone, you may want to follow your own advice and think before you type. If your dealing with bosses, than you're absolutely correct. But if you're dealing with mobs, a 7/3/3/3/3 kick sequence is a 19 frame attack on a single monster which will likely be dead somewhere in the middle of that sequence. In that same time frame, you could throw a blade at three or four different monsters (it could easily take the extra 5 frames to run up to another monster before you can start your next kick sequence).

Suggesting that BF is a faster mob killer than DTalon isn't really as stupid as you make it out to be.
Yes, but 1 Blade from Blade Fury isn't going to kill a monster. 2 = 12 frames, and you're still not going to kill a monster with 2 BF's. 3 = 18 Frames and its basically equal to a DT Sequence if you're using your 5 Kick sequenc. Except 1 DT Sequence has more chances for OW, CB etc.

Also, BF is hard to aim properly as it's a relatively slow moving missile. Your 3 BF's which you have cast in 18 frames won't all hit different targets unless you can move the mouse around that quickly and the monsters haven't moved from their positons. And finally BF has a slow start up and end anim which roots you in place.

I believe in using a 4 Kick sequence so thats 16 frames for 4 attacks. Which is FASTER than Blade Furys 3 Attacks in 18 frames. And also considerably more DPS than with BF.

Stating that Blade Fury is there so you don't seem "extreamly [sic] slow" simply isn't true.

FINALLY - While using DT You'll also be hitting with Blade Shield every 2 seconds, further increasing your damage.

midevillw said:
f you have read the guide the bf is used to take out monsters in mass as the following stars will continue on after the first has taken out its target (altho u will not be actualy tasggeting the monster). meaning that u are getting the most out of this skill for effeceancy and simplicity of use that having to constantly select your target and then having to stand there wateing while you finish the animation before killing anything else.

dt is faster and hits more than the pallys zeal but unlike zeal it will only target the one foe not any in range of the skill. yes a fully synergized death sentry is a wonderful asset to the monk but if you do not have it, cannot use it, or in any other way are bared from it. simply kicking away with a turly max dragon talon can be slower than using a pair of upgraded bartuc and your one point dragon claw.
"The following stars will continue on after the first has taken out its target" If you can 1 hit Kill monsters with BF then this statement might actually be viable but I've yet to see a BF sin consistantly kill things with any speed with BF.

How is Dragon Talon hitting 1 target a disadvantage compared to zeal? Zeal wails away at multiple targets taking longer to create a body which is what is needed for DS.

You don't need a fully synergised DS, 1 pt is enough for it to kill.



 

Mahric

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For me, Dragon Talon hitting 1 target is a massive ADVANTAGE over Zeal even without Death Sentry. Add in the corpse explosion and you only need to take out the biggest target in a crowd and the rest just blow up.
 

Arbedark

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For me, Dragon Talon hitting 1 target is a massive ADVANTAGE over Zeal even without Death Sentry. Add in the corpse explosion and you only need to take out the biggest target in a crowd and the rest just blow up.
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