Help me to make my tank sorc....

[robertodiego]

Help me to make my tank sorc....

Hi everyone,

Im making a sorc only (really only) to do Dkey runs... I got some troubles to choose the gear and the strategy:

1 - Im thinking to make a pure fire (ball and meteore): ill probabily got low skills with my gear... then a pure skill sorc will got better damage. Im choosing fire because there isnot fire immunes there (in nihlatak place, in 3 runs i dont saw immunes...).

2 - Im seeking to make a tank sorc to surviver against the nihlatak´s corpose explosions... then i thougth to use a gear with many damage reduce... ahh, the nature ring work well? because im using one and still there is some corpose explosions...

3 - My gear:

- Shako
- 3 fire ammy
- Occy
- Magefist
- 38/14 verdungos
- treks boots

and now?

- leviatan?
- Spirit or stormShiel?

Im thinking to use:

20 DR Leviatan + StormShield + 1 x Fcr ring

On second hand: 2 x spirit (crystal and monarch) to use when teleport... for fcr, fhr and mana....

Ill go really to got 79% damage reduce? There is a limit to this?

My fcr will be good? magefist (20) + occy (30) + ring (10) = 60 is good to my fireballs?

Thx for help all :thumbup:

 

[Stevomoo]

Re: Help me to make my tank sorc....

not sure what chars are good, but your merc needs morsters rip as well or nila will blow any that he kills

 

[DH Amazon]

Re: Help me to make my tank sorc....

Thx for help all :thumbup:

1 Nihlathak is sometimes fire-immune. I think those spiders too are fire immune. Could be more, kind of mixed immunes there.

2. Nature piece works if you kill. If merc kills those Nihlathak can explode. There is self-expoding ones near nihlathak, those she can explode again, you can't prevent that.

3. You need -damage (integer, not %) against bugged snakes, try to get at least -20 ... -40. Amu, shield and armor are good source for these, -25 damage reduced 32fire resist amu, Gladiators Bane, Gerkes shield.
Good fire resist are needed too aim for 75...95% (GA, Hots spur etc..) as exploding damage is half fire. Max block is good too.

50% is cap for damage reduced (%), no point to go over that. You need more -damage reduced, so mix both.

Not sure if that random tele from occu is good, even spirit sword is better.

Just drop meteors or use 65 fcr for balls. At least don't use/make hydra sorc, as nature piece don't work with hydras.


edit: Just did couple runs with sorc, at least one more fire immune there, those flayer shaman+flayers.

I use just my typical setup, just change two items for those runs. Soj->Dwarf Star and 20fcr amu to -25damage 32fire resist amu. Of course nature piece ring, but using it all the time anyway.

Using fire-lightning sorc, but don't recommended it if you can't get around lvl32...35 skills. I use CL to kill nihlathak and all around, safe and easy. When snakes there (L-immune), I burn them with fireball before merc can hurt himself.

 

[robertodiego]

Re: Help me to make my tank sorc....

Very Thx for help,

@ DH: Nice Post!

1 - Ill follow yu and Ill make a lite CL sorc... probabily pure... clear more fast.

2 - If 50% is the limit to dr, ill use Spirit shield... and i Think that ill use Duress for def, fhr and some resists...

3 - Ill make a weak/surviver merc: 20 dr leviatan + a poor bonehew w/ 2 amn (nice life leech) + 20 dr gaze... and if nihla is fire imm, i put a obedience on merc....

4 - ill use too dwarf + nature...

Thx again for help... after ill post if the sorc is working well :thumbsup:

 

[DH Amazon]

Re: Help me to make my tank sorc....

Very Thx for help,

@ DH: Nice Post!

1 - Ill follow yu and Ill make a lite CL sorc... probabily pure... clear more fast.

2 - If 50% is the limit to dr, ill use Spirit shield... and i Think that ill use Duress for def, fhr and some resists...

3 - Ill make a weak/surviver merc: 20 dr leviatan + a poor bonehew w/ 2 amn (nice life leech) + 20 dr gaze... and if nihla is fire imm, i put a obedience on merc....

4 - ill use too dwarf + nature...

Thx again for help... after ill post if the sorc is working well :thumbsup:

1. It clear fast. I use CM (crescent moon) so even with 55 points in L-tree I can clear TC85-areas fast enough in full games. No need to park any monster. Fire is my main attack anyway, L is backup.
And pure or not, at least start with as pure L-sorc. After spending first 50...60 points in that tree, decide if you need backup attack or more power.

2. Just use Shako, thats enough for %damage reduced. Bugged poison snakes are hardest, you need -damage gear against those. Just retreat if full of snakes.
Shako+Spirit+CM+Vipermagi+Magefist should put you over 78fcr. Rest -damage reduced gear. You can even put sols in Shako and Vipermagi if you cant get -damage elsewhere. At least nature piece has little, a good start

And for fire resist, usually fire resist is your lowest one while using spirit shield. Just use couple 30fire resist grand charms+Hotspurs/Inferno Stride boots for cheap fix, use expensive ones later. I have used even that lvl10 amu, Nokozan Relic, works nicely too agaist Nihlathak corpse explosions. With high fire resist you can play more aggressively as you can take couple of explosions.

3. Gladiators bane (sol) lvl85 , or Iron Pelt (sol) lvl33 armor are good choices. Wihtout those that bugged vipers poison damage kills you merc too easily.
I use threachery as merc armor, but change to Bane when I found one.
Reapers+Tal helmet(sol)/Gaze+Bane(sol), I would use something like that for merc.

4. Those are good rings, after getting nature piece ring, start using oak-sage from that ring. Gives extra 700-900 life to your merc, so he can tank much better in hard pots. It takes only 2k to repair one charge, its so much cheaper to use 2-3 charges than rehiring merc.
Just clear one side/corridor before Nihlathak, so there is no monsters behind that will kill oak. If there are snakes/amp cursing mages then I use oak to help merc, otherwise he can take couple explosion without trouble.

 

[robertodiego]

Re: Help me to make my tank sorc....

Very Thx again for help DH:

How many dmg yur CL do? Can yu Clear close to Nilahtk with 1-2 CL?

Im thinking to make a agressive sorc... Ill tele directily to nilatak place and use CL and running away from snakes. I changed my gear:

Shako
Akraine valor
StormShield
Verdungos
Treks
occy
magefirst
3 Lite ammy
dwarf and nature
Second hand: spirits

w/ this gear ill got 10 To all Skills, nice def, fhr and block, nice resists (ill can max all w/ charms)... the problem is the fcr (50)... Ill got trouble w/ 50% fcr?

Im wanting to make a pure because i wanna to give at least 15 skills to Shiver armor (w/ this gear ill got a nice base def + boost by Shiver armor)...

(Im uping the sorc; lvl 14 now = )

Wat do yu think about?

Ahh lite is better than fire: there are more fire immunes there... lite immune I only saw the snakes...

Very Thx again for help

 

[DH Amazon]

Re: Help me to make my tank sorc....

How many dmg yur CL do? Can yu Clear close to Nilahtk with 1-2 CL?

It's around 3k(with -35 or -58L resist), max I can get is 5.2k (lvl37), but I prefer using Crescent Moon. Kills fast enough in 1-2 players setups, I don't do this area in full games. Its so hard time for merc if Nihlathak is both fire+light immune, so I only do that are alone or join friends game.

the problem is the fcr (50)... Ill got trouble w/ 50% fcr?

Its enough. At least for teleing, you kill faster with higher fcr. Replace armor with upped vipermagi to get 80 (78 is break point for CL/L).

 

[robertodiego]

Re: Help me to make my tank sorc....

Thx man again....

Yep, ill try first a uped vipermagi... Now im done to make my dkey sorc :wink: when she to be done ill post here how she is working...

Very thx for yur patience DH !!!!! :thumbup: