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Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by grasshopper, Oct 15, 2006.

  1. grasshopper

    grasshopper IncGamers Member

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    help me on bvc

    ok on gear im useing

    p dr coa

    260+ beast a griefz 34+ ias

    mp nigma dracs sspurs 2x20 dex/200+ ar ravens

    2x hoto for bo then put my window on anni and torch

    and hilorad ammy

    will bvc suck without charms

    becouse i cant offaerd them
     
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    matchuk IncGamers Member

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    ur gear is enuff to dominate but yeah bvc top end relies on charms

    but in the end those charms are just extra hp/ar

    switch ammy for highlords and u will be able to beat most people
     
  3. Ce Olba

    Ce Olba Banned

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    I would suggest having +36 str on your Beast.

    Oh, and also, swap the Hotos for Dooms. It is worth it.
     
  4. grasshopper

    grasshopper IncGamers Member

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    why whats doomz do
     
  5. Ce Olba

    Ce Olba Banned

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    A couple of things:
    A) A switch that can actually KILL people
    B) You only lose 4% effective life
    C) you can easily kill wolves and oak sages
    D) You can easily kill bowazons
    E) you can kill people who are on 1 life from a distance
    F) You can BM

    So, what are Hotos for? +6 bo ONLY. Whereas Dooms have a LOT of reasons behind of them. All good BvCs use dual Dooms.
     
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    grasshopper IncGamers Member

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    i cant offard my charms bro how am i gunna offard dooms
     
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    Clay bizzle IncGamers Member

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    Sell your Hotos. Also, if you can't afford such a crucial part of any PvP build, which charms are, then you should delay using that character for a bit longer.

    Ce Olba, gonna have to disagree with you on the whole easily killing wolfs part. Against BvC's my wolf uses dual Ravens and SS which puts me way over the 75% cold res max so the cold damage is nullified, and Dooms don't have the damage of Grief/Beast. The Holy Freeze only affects me slightly since I walk anyways, and during a BvC's fast WW's I usually only count on one hit for each pass while I shift Fury because that's all the time I have while he's in my 2 range from my Grief phaser. Maybe your dueling experience on Europe against wolfs wasn't like this, but stick to your Grief/Beast imo.
     
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    Ronaldo IncGamers Member

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    i think he meant the wolves that windys summon
     
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    mainaman IncGamers Member

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    the thing is that only really badly built druid will have summons that die easy to dooms.
    good druids don't suffer form that flaw.
     
  10. Ce Olba

    Ce Olba Banned

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    Eh? Note the "oak sage" next to it? You think that Shapers (NOTE: SHAPERS, NOT WOLVES) are in the same cathegory as oak sages? Duh?

    And you seriously think that after dueling Stoute I would even consider using dual dooms versus shapers?

    And that's just why Howl>Dooms versus summons.
     
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    Clay bizzle IncGamers Member

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    Ah for some reason I was thinkin' you meant an actual Wolf character, not the minion. I wish I could duel you and Stoute, but I'm on USWest! We got some good duelers here too, but I always see you guys posting here and you both are very intellectual about your characters. How was that duel by the way!?
     
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    Well, at that time I barely had an idea of who Stoute actually was, so I got beaten quite bad (and of course I was trying to use a Doom, duh).

    Haven't dueled him since then.
     

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