Hell Question. Need Help!

[visara]

Hell Question. Need Help!

I just finished nightmare with ease and now, I am at ActIII Hell. One to two hit from monsters and bam, she dies especially from Undead Stygian Dolls. I also died like more than 50 times from Duriel because one or two hits equals to death. My strategy has been not to get hit but I do not know if that strategy would still work in later parts of Hell. I need help. Please!

My character is FO/TS sorceress.
HP: 400+
MP: 1032
Dex: Base
Strength: 80

Gear:
Duriel's Shell
Rare Orb with +2 to all sorceress skills and other mods
Moser's Blessed Circle with two perfect Diamonds
Duskdeep Helm
Nightsmoke Belt
Rare amulet with +1 to all sorceress skills and other mods
Stone of Jordan and Ring with resistances
Natalya's Mesh Boots

My resistances in Hell are all 75 thanks to my gear and two Shimmering Grand Charm.

I need help. I know that this is a very naive thing to ask but please help me!

 

[beau_nidle]

What lvl are you? I know that most SPFers recommend that you are at least lvl 70+ before attempting hell.

Also what are you skill allocations, you said that you use FO/TS but what lvl are they at?

Do you have points in the Masteries?

 

[visara]

What lvl are you? I know that most SPFers recommend that you are at least lvl 70+ before attempting hell.

Also what are you skill allocations, you said that you use FO/TS but what lvl are they at?

Do you have points in the Masteries?

I'm at lvl72. Here are my skill points allocation:
Frozen Orb 20
CM 7
LM 7
TS 17
Warmth 11
Teleport 1
Rest are preq

 

[Ravenclaw]

I just finished nightmare with ease and now, I am at ActIII Hell. One to two hit from monsters and bam, she dies especially from Undead Stygian Dolls. I also died like more than 50 times from Duriel because one or two hits equals to death. My strategy has been not to get hit but I do not know if that strategy would still work in later parts of Hell. I need help. Please!

My character is FO/TS sorceress.
HP: 400+
MP: 1032
Dex: Base
Strength: 80

Gear:
Duriel's Shell
Rare Orb with +2 to all sorceress skills and other mods
Moser's Blessed Circle with two perfect Diamonds
Duskdeep Helm
Nightsmoke Belt
Rare amulet with +1 to all sorceress skills and other mods
Stone of Jordan and Ring with resistances
Natalya's Mesh Boots

My resistances in Hell are all 75 thanks to my gear and two Shimmering Grand Charm.

I need help. I know that this is a very naive thing to ask but please help me!

iirc, you had posted a couple of threads about Hell Act 2 a while ago....
what had astonished me was that you did not face difficulties that you are NOW mentioning then.

i mean if this is happening to you with all resists 75, then how did you make it with (IIRC) lightning 6, poison 16, and the other two also below 20 i think...

some other questions have been asked by BabaYaga (who plays a very similar sorc to yours i think!) in your old post.

i had wondered then too, and i'm still wondering... :lol:

anyway...u wil HAVE TO push up you HPs,....400+ is NOT VIABLE in hell.

 

[beau_nidle]

Do you have a merc? If not i recommend getting an Act 2 def merc.

I don't know how item rich you are but if you could kit him out with:

Vampire Gaze
Shaftstop
Hone Sudan

That should keep him alive, and also stop the monsters from getting to you while you blast away with FO/TS

 

[Solo]

Put a couple more points into cold mastery. Do you have energy shield? If you don't, get that first..!

Any chance you want to trade for that SoJ? :drool:

 

[Ravenclaw]

I'm at lvl72. Here are my skill points allocation:
Frozen Orb 20
CM 7
LM 7
TS 17
Warmth 11
Teleport 1
Rest are preq

You are only at lvl 72?

You were 72 at the beginning of Act II Hell as per info posted by u...
i think there's a mistake somewhere... :scratch:

 

[visara]

iirc, you had posted a couple of threads about Hell Act 2 a while ago....
what had astonished me was that you did not face difficulties that you are NOW mentioning then.

i mean if this is happening to you with all resists 75, then how did you make it with (IIRC) lightning 6, poison 16, and the other two also below 20 i think...

some other questions have been asked by BabaYaga (who plays a very similar sorc to yours i think!) in your old post.

i had wondered then too, and i'm still wondering... :lol:

anyway...u wil HAVE TO push up you HPs,....400+ is NOT VIABLE in hell.

My friend gave me two Shimmering Grand Charms (13 to all resistances) and i replaced my RalOrtTal Shield with a moser's blessed circle with two perfect diamonds. And with help from my equipment, it reached 75. That is because I took all of your advices and did NM meph runs until I got a blessed circle!

Just so you know, I play clean. Those are all clean items. My sweat and blood had gone into those items from doing multiple runs. My HP seems to be the problem. Are there items that have like stone of jordan effect to HP?

 

[visara]

You are only at lvl 72?

You were 72 at the beginning of Act II Hell as per info posted by u...
i think there's a mistake somewhere... :scratch:

I entered Hell at lvl 70 and only leveled up once each act because I do not kill all the monsters because they are just too tough. If I killed all of them do u think i would have leveled up more than once? Maybe I would go back to the bloody foothills. Hell is just too tough for exp runs.

 

[Ravenclaw]

Just so you know, I play clean. Those are all clean items. My sweat and blood had gone into those items from doing multiple runs. My HP seems to be the problem. Are there items that have like stone of jordan effect to HP?

I was in no way implying nything about the source of your items...
in fact, that's awesome MF!

My query was this:

u said u were lvl 72 with very low resists but had Already completed Act 1 hell.
I sincerely think it is amazing u could clear Act 1 hell- since u got your good items only in act II from nm mephisto.

and u definitely cannot still be level 72 at the beginning of Act III now...

 

[visara]

I was in no way implying nything about the source of your items...
in fact, that's awesome MF!

My query was this:

u said u were lvl 72 with very low resists but had Already completed Act 1 hell.
I sincerely think it is amazing u could clear Act 1 hell- since u got your good items only in act II from nm mephisto.

and u definitely cannot still be level 72 at the beginning of Act III now...

ActI Hell was not a walk in the park. It took me about two weeks to complete the entire act. Then, ACtII came and those pesky scarab beetles just keep killing me with just one bolt. So then I asked help in these forums and they had been very helpful to me. I have my MF gear in my stash. If I wear all of them, I would have 205% MF. I always do NM meph runs.

 

[Ravenclaw]

I entered Hell at lvl 70 and only leveled up once each act because I do not kill all the monsters because they are just too tough.

Ah, that clears up a few things...

But why the tearing hurry to get into Hell?...no point really evading monsters to get at the biggies...coz they'll be too tough for you anyway since u're not levelling up fast enough?

And what's the point in that approach?

 

[visara]

Ah, that clears up a few things...

But why the tearing hurry to get into Hell?...no point really evading monsters to get at the biggies...coz they'll be too tough for you anyway since u're not levelling up fast enough?

And what's the point in that approach?

Nothing really. Maybe you're right. I'll level up first until I'm level 80 and then I'll go back to Hell. I always do Bloody Foothills. I do it very fast with Frozen Orb and they fall like flies. Thanks RavenClaw. Anymore suggestions?

 

[factotum]

I Matriarched a sorceress with hugely low resistances (she had -15 Cold Res!) and no more than 600HP (forget the exact number, but it was no higher than that). The basic strategy is not get hit yourself and have a Defiance merc take the hits FOR you--oh, and I assume you're playing on /players 1, right? You'll find it almost impossible in Hell at a higher setting than that, unless you are truly a godly D2 player.

Teleport is your friend, by the way. Run forward enough to wake up a group of monsters, then teleport back a screen. Your merc comes with you and runs forward to take on the monsters, giving you ample time to hit them with everything you've got (hopefully before the merc dies, although Defiance mercs are surprisingly durable with decent equipment).

 

[Ravenclaw]

I Matriarched a sorceress with hugely low resistances (she had -15 Cold Res!) and no more than 600HP (forget the exact number, but it was no higher than that). The basic strategy is not get hit yourself and have a Defiance merc take the hits FOR you--oh, and I assume you're playing on /players 1, right? You'll find it almost impossible in Hell at a higher setting than that, unless you are truly a godly D2 player.

Teleport is your friend, by the way. Run forward enough to wake up a group of monsters, then teleport back a screen. Your merc comes with you and runs forward to take on the monsters, giving you ample time to hit them with everything you've got (hopefully before the merc dies, although Defiance mercs are surprisingly durable with decent equipment).

@visara: so u see there's hope there...:lol:
but seriously, i'd level up a bit, stack up on vitality and then give hell act 3 a serious go!

 

[Ravenclaw]

er...by the way, i hope u've done them Cows (both normal and nm!)

 

[LprMan]

Nothing really. Maybe you're right. I'll level up first until I'm level 80 and then I'll go back to Hell. I always do Bloody Foothills. I do it very fast with Frozen Orb and they fall like flies. Thanks RavenClaw. Anymore suggestions?

Don't do runs in Foothills, go to WSK. Exp there is much better and Baal can even drop some good stuff

 

[Kaelor]

Definately level up. WSK is a great suggestion: run Baal on up to /players 3 if you can handle the boss packs and you should shoot up quickly.
If you're confident in your skills you can go my recent route and stop NM Baal runs at 75 or so and work your way to the end of Act I Hell. Get a good map seed in Catacombs 2 and then run Andy all the way to 80. With the frequent unique mobs in Andys chamber, and the queen herself, you should also garner some good items.

Regardless of health, be careful using your TS when you know dollpacks are around. Since you can't control those bolts from the TS, you will invariably be too close to a doll when a bolt strikes it and causes the explosion. A good reflex is to teleport ASAP when you see dolls coming and then FO back towards them. Let them swarm your merc.

 

[Sharakorr]

i would suggest u get wizzy and change form duriel's to shaft, make sure u have a pt into nrg shield and a merc that can tank for u. also maybe some sc's of vita (+20 life) or +40 life gc's