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Hell Cows Destroyer

Discussion in 'Paladin' started by bwong, Jul 6, 2010.

  1. bwong

    bwong IncGamers Member

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    Hell Cows Destroyer

    Hey guys, I was just moseying through a cow game when some bad *** with no weapon and no shield comes through with a conviction aura and holy shock and cows drop dead before they can get close to him, not exaggerating they were dead on first impact of holy shock, what's up with this? What build is this? From what I thought I knew, the damage from being around someone with a holy aura on was negligible, but here this guy is walking around, hell cows dropping like flys.
     
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    Re: Hell Cows Destroyer

    hmm...killing hell cows with a shock aura? Wild. The build he is probably using is a dreamer build, based on the dream RW. when you put it in both a helm and shield and wear both, the levels stack for a nice big lvl 30 holy shock.

    Add in the synergy light resist, and your pumping out some serious damage. Run a conviction aura and it cuts down the mobs resists to lightning. all in all a potent package...not sure how it can get high enough to kill hell cows, but I've never ran that build so no clue on it's potential. im sure he's probably maxed out light facets on his gear, and any other lightning boost he can get.

    In other words, unless thsi guys non ladder hes probably wearing 80% bought gear, a kings ransom worth. look for dreamer builds in the guides section for more info on the general build itself.
     
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    Re: Hell Cows Destroyer

    First of all, the no weapon and no shield is just a known visual strength glitch. It happens when you have more than one piece of gear that gives you +STR mods, which you can then use to wear other gear with +STR mods, which makes it appear as if your character is not wearing the gear at all (because the base strength would be too low).
    You see this a lot on pub duel Amazons, Barbarians and Paladins, but other than having your opponents guessing what gear you're wearing, it has no real effect in game otherwise.

    Second, if Hell Cows were just flopping from full health from one pulse of his Holy Shock + Conviction, then he was, without a question, stacked, which also happens via a known gear glitch.
    This is the same glitch Auradins use in pub duels--and it's easy to spot because everything within his offensive aura range would be dead in a second.



    -Kinky


     
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    Re: Hell Cows Destroyer

    Fully synergized Dreamadin does 4-1167 on the pulse damage. Even with conviction bringing Cows down to -100%, thats only 2200 damage a pulse at the very maximum. No cow will drop just from that, so it has to be aura stacking.
     
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    Re: Hell Cows Destroyer

    I thought aura stack glitch was fixed in 1.13?



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    Re: Hell Cows Destroyer

    Haven't gotten around to making an Auradin in 1.13 yet, so I wouldn't know.
    But judging by the OP's account of the situation it's the only feasible explanation.


    -Kinky


     
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    Re: Hell Cows Destroyer

    Is this with or without damage and -lr from facets and/or crescent moon? You can wear double dream and stuff your armour and weapon slot with 10 facets, or use crescent moon rw with 4 facets. These will up the lightning damage, and reduce enemy LR further (if it's not yet at -100). Probably 10 facets gives the bigger damage boost.

    4-1167 becomes 6 - 1700 (after facets), with -100 lr this doubles to 12 - 3400 dmg.



     
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    Re: Hell Cows Destroyer

    That is still too low for 1 shotting cow kardinaal.
     
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    Re: Hell Cows Destroyer

    I think there's a way to stack auras. I haven't tried it myself though
     
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    Re: Hell Cows Destroyer

    A Hell Cow has 9442-15449 health.



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    Re: Hell Cows Destroyer

    Maybe he can bend reality. Just saying, people throw out that possibility waaaaay too much.
     
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    Re: Hell Cows Destroyer

    Dream stacking is in perfect working order, Tried and tested and confirmed.
     
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    Re: Hell Cows Destroyer

    I wonder what else is screwed up that Blizzard assured us was fixed.
     
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    Re: Hell Cows Destroyer

    Lord De Seis's seal fix was never fixed either.
    On top of many others, obviously.


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    Re: Hell Cows Destroyer

    A Pure shock Paladin with Infinity Merc will do more damage (paladin just needs to make up -20% of the lower level conviction) but as I have a Paladin thats close to max HS Id say its still impossible,I think I could get up to 4 k Pulse damage but backpack would be full.

    Other things to consider are was there more than one HS/Dreamer Paladin,was it possible he was damaging them off screen then when they came on screen it seemed like 1 hit KOs,a pure HS Paladins aura will go further than a dreamers.
     
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    Re: Hell Cows Destroyer

    When you see somebody else without certain gear on that means his gear is str glitched. Meaning charms like torch, anni, str charms, etc provided him with enough str without him distributing almost any or none into str.


     

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