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Hell ancients with melee

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  1. Youma

    Youma IncGamers Member

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    Hell ancients with melee

    Got my lvl62 tesladin at nightmare ancients (not hell as the title sais), and I dare not try because of what happened last time, dead almost instantly.. Is there a trick to beating them with melee? Stupidly gave up my attack rating merc when I got an igonre def weapon, so can't use ranged.

    D2 is not very melee-friendly in general, is it..
     
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    Re: Hell ancients with melee

    You can TP in the fight to re-roll them, as they will poof once a TP is made. When I do hell ancients I usually re-roll them so there is only one CI, no PIs, no FE and no bad auras, since my merc has to kill one by himself. Just roll them until they have lame mods and then take them on.

    Lucky
     
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    Re: Hell ancients with melee

    Indeed, in the past I've re-rolled the ancients 10-15 times in Hell before I found something I liked, there is no reason you can't do this in NM also.

    You can also bring up extra potions and spread them around on the summit before you start the fight. When I know it's going to be a tough fight I usually build 3 piles, each with health, mana, and full juvs in various amounts, depending on how lazy I feel or how scared I feel. This way you can just run and pick them up mid-fight, without having to open your inventory and transfer potions.

    Keeping your merc alive for as long as possible is usually a good strategy also, if you can.

    -hps
     
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    Re: Hell ancients with melee

    I think which one you concentrate on killing first when going melee is important as well. I always go for the thrower first (Madawc iirc), because if you've engaged him in close combat he can't throw at you. If you go for one of the other ones first, he'll sit on the sideline and throw at you, and your merc probably won't go after him, either.
     
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    Re: Hell ancients with melee

    Life Tap wand, 'nough said.
     
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    Re: Hell ancients with melee

    Yep! I'm gonna be looking for that Echoing Dagger of Life Tap :)



     
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    Re: Hell ancients with melee

    Think I can tank both melees at once? Found it hard to separate them before, even with the merc alive.
     
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    Re: Hell ancients with melee

    Sometimes right after I spawn them I take to running around like a chicken with my head cut off. It is possible to get them split up, sometimes you have to run around a fair bit, but usually in the end it's paid off for me.

    -hps



     
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    Re: Hell ancients with melee

    Also, make sure the game's burned in before attempting (eg it's been up for >5 minutes) which shouldn't be a problem if you're trying to get there solo with a tesladin...

    That way if you kill one then find yourself in trouble you can flux instead of portaling, run all the way back, and the one will still be dead instead of having reset them. It's kind of cheating the encounter so if you want to *really* beat them instead of just getting through them you might want to avoid that route, but if all that matters is getting them out of the way, whatever ~_~

    Also; exploding arrows don't use AR, and iirc your shock damage is carried in the explosion, but I could be wrong. Something to keep in mind maybe if you're not trying to go untwinked and can get your hands on a demon machine or kuko. Definitely be a long fight that way, but if you can't take the hits it might be your best bet.
     
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    Re: Hell ancients with melee

    AFAIK, only fire dmg gets added to the explosion arrows.
     
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    Re: Hell ancients with melee

    That really works? I thought if there wasn't anybody there they reset...

    http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/quests/act5.shtml

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    Re: Hell ancients with melee

    It works.
    I think they broke it when 1.10 was released.


    And Zelator could be right about the explosion arrow thing.



     
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    Re: Hell ancients with melee

    Yey, made it!
     
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    Re: Hell ancients with melee

    Grats=) hard fight?


     
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    Re: Hell ancients with melee

    In a future, when you roll other characters and encounter the same problem, just ask any hammerdin for help :) It takes me about 10 seconds to deal with Hell ancients even in 3-player game.

    Better be safe then sorry :)
     
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    Re: Hell ancients with melee

    Agreed with Koyen.. He's the local hammerdin actually.
     

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