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Have I found 1.10's Ultimate Build?

Discussion in 'Amazon' started by NickRivers, Mar 19, 2004.

  1. NickRivers

    NickRivers IncGamers Member

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    Have I found 1.10's Ultimate Build?

    I was looking through all of the classes, and combinations, and found a very good character build, a Hybrid.

    20 Lighting Fury (main attack)
    20 Cold Arrow
    20 Freezing Arrow (against Light Immunes)
    1 in each skill of the Passive Tree (10 skills)
    4 Prerequisites
    20 in a single Boss killing skill--I chose Strafe.
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    94 Skill points (97 for prereq's if Strafe is used)

    That is the build. IMHO, LF is the best (quickest/safest) killer in the game. FA is right behind it. I have found that 1 in each of the Passive tree skills is enough with enough +1 skill equipment.

    I use an upgraded 197% ED/8 ML Lycander's Aim on bow switch, and a 197% 9 LL Titan's Revenge on jav switch, shako, etc. for max bonuses to skills. I am finding that it is a very quick mf'er and the best all around character I have played (I like my hammerdin, but he's not as quick.)

    Any comments?
     
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    powerteo IncGamers Member

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    simply wonderful!
    i have a poison/LF zon (lv 84) which have diff in LIs and bosses...as poison (damage 8k over 12.6sec) abit slow in killing LIs...
    When comes to boss killing, YUCKS... pls don get offended for zon lovers...

    True, my hammerdins is fast for boss kill, but abit tedious for rangers kill. I see archers (not just one, but champs and uniques) ... tats it...

    i m going to create another one!
    i think this build is almost unstoppable! Thanks!
     
  3. Cybot

    Cybot IncGamers Member

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    You missed a huge point here.
    Both LF and FA need 'pierce' to be effective.
     
  4. Yossarian

    Yossarian IncGamers Member

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    Pierce is simple. Razor gives 33%. One point in pierce with plus skills will put it at around 50-60% easy. 80-90 % pierce seems ok to me.
     
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    Valkries are useful and they are helping all the time unlike skills that are only used occasionally. So I'd take some points from FA / CA and put more into her. Otherwise a good combination of skills with the right equipment to make the most of them.
     
  6. Camaro

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    Strafe for bosses :scratch: :scratch:

    dont think that gonna work GA works much better vs bosses and also with only one point invested. And being strafe locked against bossen (even for a little time) can be quite dangerus.

    So GA works better vs bosses and saves u 20 points.

    You could also go for charged strike :worship:. Thats real power vs bosses and small pack even with 1 syn it would still kick *ss :D

    just my 2 cents

    Camaro
     
  7. Kaitana Lane

    Kaitana Lane IncGamers Member

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    re: 1.10 Ultimate Build

    I agree with using charged strike for boss killer. Bow skills are woefully inept when it comes to killing bosses. Nice idea for a build though. I already have a strafe/lf/cs hybrid which I love and I think this might be better. Probably going to skip valk's side of passives however as she just won't survive in Hell with only 1 point and + skills.
     
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    pipermac IncGamers Member

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    you want an efective build:

    20 - PS
    20 - CS
    20 - LS
    20 - LF

    6 to passive skills 1 each into dodge,evade,avoid,critical ,penetrate, pierce

    5 into Bow skills - To get Strafe

    +Skill Items make the Passive and bow skills plenty strong enough.

    This uses a total of 95 Skill points any additional points would go into Pierce.

    Main Weapon is an Up'd Eth Titans
    BU Weapon is a Windforce
    Armor is COH
    Helm is GRiff Eye with Lite Facet
    Shield is Headhunter glory with 3 lite facet.
    Boots are Gore Riders

    Bosses go down in a couple second with CS I solo'd Hell Diablo and he was dead in 2 seconds.

    so Bosses are not a problem

    I have an act2 Holy freeze merc (Dont need valk as he is a more then adequate tank and LI Killer)

    although a bit slower....the Windforce on switch takes out LI's pretty darn good. The COH and Goreriders. really help the physical damage.
     
  10. NickRivers

    NickRivers IncGamers Member

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    I like the charged strike suggestion. Strafe just doesn't kill very fast--my lycander's aim has an average damage of around 170, and it still can't kill very fast at all.
    I might have to rebuild her :).
    I don't like focusing on one element, because you are severely limitted.
    Razortail fixes the pierce problems, and valk doesn't die often (I was surprised). It dies mainly on pindle runs and such where the monsters deal tremendous amounts of damage. I look at valk as a moving decoy/meatshield, because if your valk is doing the killing, you are moving way too slowly.
     
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    hmmm...looks ROCK SOLID, the only thing one would have to worry is a lightning/cold dual immune...
     
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    The only problem I see with all those builds? Hardcore play.

    You don't wanna go toe to toe or Valk-less in Hardcore ;)
     
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    Why not maxed Multishot??

    I dun think anyone would wanna fire at hell golams one by one with FA.
    No pts in penetrate??

    Will we be able to hit anything in hell??
     
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    "I dun think anyone would wanna fire at hell golams one by one with FA.
    No pts in penetrate??

    Will we be able to hit anything in hell??"

    FA is actually quite nice for Souls since they can't shoot while totally frozen, and penetrate is not needed because FA provides a very healthy AR bonus unlike Strafe.
     
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    Also...If you want to max multishot you might as well hand out skill points to other character :lol:

    Let's face it: The damage increase per multishot point is horrible.

    @NickRivers: Be sure to post your progress here. Seems like a great idea. You better be good at writing guides, cause I will demand one once you are done :lol:

    Nevertheless, it will be interesting picking out the weaknesses of this build. At the moment it seems to good to be true to be honest.

    -Backdoor Bandit
     
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    My build so far..

    So far, my lvl 83 Javzon is working out pretty good...
    She is played on USeast HC Ladder

    Maxed LF, CS, and working on the third synergy for both of em.. Light Strike...
    1 into all passive and magic skills... not sure about pt allocation but.. my pierce is at 82% with my gear... havent done ANY skill quests for norm, nm, or hell yet..

    She wears :19/14 clean Grifs eye
    197/8 Titans
    +2 Jav gloves w/ 20ias and a few other mods
    SS clean
    Highlords ammy
    Archon Plate Chains of Honor
    War travs currently
    Tgods belt
    Ravenfrost and perfect manald

    She is an awesome killer.. and has not problems in hell..
    Has over 1.4k life (2.2k with perfect cta on)
    maxed res in hell (thanks to 4 small 5's)

    She uses an Act1 defiance merc, lvld up to 83
    Her merc uses eth shaft, eth gaze, and eth thresher

    Overall, its a nice setup... whatever I cant kill 'cause of immunities or whatnot.. my merc handles pretty quickly. I normally dont have problems with light immunes.. but sometimes there are just too many for me to handle..

    There is room for improvement in my gear.. i.e gloves, ammy, boots, rings, eth titans...
    The ss seems to work well with my coh, for the 43% dr i get.. its nice to have as well. Thats all I can really think of at the time, if something changes, i'll post it.
     
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    You got all of that on hardcore ladder? Damn you must mf a lot!

    BTW can a Javazon breeze thru hell untwinked?
     
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    I would recommend Charged Strike instead of Strafe as a boss skill, since it is crazy-fast and synergizes LS.
     
  19. leesh

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    With this build i think a upgraded WWS would own.

    Mightmerc, Atamas, WWS would take care of this problem.
     
  20. leesh

    leesh Guest

    Nick, how is your zon coming along? any news on how this build is doing ?
     

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