Hats in the Ring 2016

Leopold Stotch

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Another Bush in the house.... Don't have enough info to form an accurate opinion.

Well, no. I take that back. If another Bush is in the House for 2016, I'm sure most of my fellow Texans will be happy. I LIVE IN A RED STATE and it shows with all the Romney, McCain, "NOBAMA" and "DADDD" bumper stickers. (DADDD = Dads Against Daughters Dating Democrats and I only saw that one once)
 

Glurin

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Speaking of elections, someone should probably check on jmervyn. His head might have exploded after the vote yesterday.
 

jmervyn

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Well, no. I take that back. If another Bush is in the House for 2016, I'm sure most of my fellow Texans will be happy. I LIVE IN A RED STATE and it shows with all the Romney, McCain, "NOBAMA" and "DADDD" bumper stickers. (DADDD = Dads Against Daughters Dating Democrats and I only saw that one once)
While both of those are sage advice which you ought to heed, the fact that Jeb is a tool and a non-starter was already discussed elsewhere.

LTC Schlichter said:
Jeb Bush is a lumpy, over-hyped, empty suit who operates under the delusion that his marginal success is more than an accident of birth, that it is a result of his inner specialness rather than a manifestation of pure entitlement. He spreads falsehoods about Republicans, asserting that the conservative base is an obstacle to success in the general election, and he embraces mortifying perversions, like amnesty and common core. In other words, Jeb Bush is the GOP's Lena Dunham.

Jeb appears to think that he can be nominated and elected by not merely ignoring the conservative base but by actively insulting it. Hillary Clinton adores this innovative strategy. Sure, Jeb currently sits at the top of the polls, something that he probably thinks has to do with his inherent awesomeness rather than the fact that everybody remembers his father and brother's last name. But this guy is a loser, and we conservatives are going to take great pleasure in watching him fail.
 

jmervyn

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Daily Show pointed out Lindsey Graham said he's exploring the idea......

LOL
Just remember, it's a real possibility, given that this is representative of the U.S. Electorate in general and the Democrat party in specific:



I haven't heard who the Libertarian candidate will be yet. I hope it's someone decent.
 

BobCox2

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PALIN ‘SERIOUSLY’ CONSIDERING WH RUN: ‘I’M READY FOR HILLARY


Speaking at Saturday’s Iowa Freedom Summit, Palin said it would take a bold conservative and a “village” to defeat Clinton should Democrats nominate her. Palin quipped that she wasn’t sure whether Clinton was a “new Democrat” or an “old one.”

She held up a a “Ready for Hillary” bumper sticker and declared, “I’m ready for Hillary.” She said there should not be a “no girls allowed” sign on the Oval Office door.

She also quoted Margaret Thatcher’s famous words in which Thatcher said, “If you want something said, ask a man. If you want something done, ask a woman.”

“America is ready to get stuff done,” Palin then said, saying that the key to victory in 2016 will be to nominate a candidate who proposes “real solutions grounded in time-tested truths” with a “record” of past achievements.
 
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jmervyn

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Good to see you read Breitbart, Bob.

Palin's not as bright as she ought try to be, but then, many politicians aren't. She's more interested in having Hillary in the Executive (AKA Womyn in the White House) than in finding out what sort of Executive Hillary would actually make.

Hillary is not terribly different from Obama. She's a completely dishonest hard-core Progressive Leftist who thinks America needs to be more like China and a lot less the leader of the so-called 'free world'. She also despises the military and is thoroughly corrupt, just like Barack.

Still, chances are she'll win despite being almost as old as any candidate that's run in the past, so I guess we'll have the opportunity to find out.
 

jmervyn

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So, we are all very hopeful for a new approach in 2016?
I cannot wait for everything to be turned around by the next messiah.
In fairness, Loz, I don't think anyone here actually made that claim. I think a couple of conservative candidates <COULD> be another Reagan, but I doubt very much that any of them would be elected. The only Dem offering who's not Obama Mk II is Jim Webb, and I don't think he'll see the light of day either. Bob's fave, Princess Dances-With-Identity-Theft, is to Obama's LEFT...

EDIT - more about Jeb. I guess this all but ensures he'll win the nom with Chris Christie. Who do you think will be on top?
 
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krischan

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Good to see you read Breitbart, Bob.

Palin's not as bright as she ought try to be, but then, many politicians aren't. She's more interested in having Hillary in the Executive (AKA Womyn in the White House) than in finding out what sort of Executive Hillary would actually make.

Hillary is not terribly different from Obama. She's a completely dishonest hard-core Progressive Leftist who thinks America needs to be more like China and a lot less the leader of the so-called 'free world'. She also despises the military and is thoroughly corrupt, just like Barack.
I think it'a a bit disturbing if written by somebody with a Santa avatar.

Progressive leftist, haha! Let's face it, you have no leftists in any major party of the US. All you have are donkeys and elephants. What's particularly funny, they were successful in making people believe that not voting for either a donkey or an elephant is a waste.

Your assignment of adjectives are exaggerations, as usual. If she was corrupt and she become president, it would be your duty to remove her from power, wouldn't it? Not just by words, but by deeds.

Ah yes, Palin said men just say things, women do them. That was worth a laugh. She forgot to mention the smallprint about exceptions for politicians.

Still, chances are she'll win despite being almost as old as any candidate that's run in the past, so I guess we'll have the opportunity to find out.
This isn't the first of your sources which annoying popup windows. I hate that! Well, at least it was a blank one. I guess it was a "what do you think of us?" feedback request which might not work outside the US.

Edit: Vote/waste confusion fixed.
 
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LozHinge the Unhinged

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In fairness, Loz, I don't think anyone here actually made that claim. I think a couple of conservative candidates <COULD> be another Reagan, but I doubt very much that any of them would be elected. The only Dem offering who's not Obama Mk II is Jim Webb, and I don't think he'll see the light of day either. Bob's fave, Princess Dances-With-Identity-Theft, is to Obama's LEFT...

EDIT - more about Jeb. I guess this all but ensures he'll win the nom with Chris Christie. Who do you think will be on top?
Princess Dances ... heh. I LOL'd.

At this stage of the tired old game, I would settle for a Reagan wannabe. From what I read, I don't think I'd want The Jebster but then, my judgement is suspect. And redundant, seeing as I don't currently vote in the US.

I just want to see a Rep at the top now. As long as *he* and any possible Rep Senate don't see eye-to-eye on every topic, there will be a good four years spent rolling back Obamaland and that's four less years in which the Reps can wreak their own brand of carnage on my homeland.
 

jmervyn

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I think it'a a bit disturbing if written by somebody with a Santa avatar.
Do I amuse you?
Progressive leftist, haha! Let's face it, you have no leftists in any major party of the US.
You're quite wrong, kris. There's a wide swath of Stalinist aspirants, but the strength of the American system makes it pretty difficult to do anything like dissolving the Reichstag. We have a couple of admitted Socialists and Maoists, but labeling themselves Fascists and Communists isn't done for Public Relations' sake - the sentiment is alive & well.
Your assignment of adjectives are exaggerations, as usual. If she was corrupt and she become president, it would be your duty to remove her from power, wouldn't it? Not just by words, but by deeds.
Similarly, the American populace simply doesn't have the guts to rid themselves of people for corruption. Obama is many times as corrupt as Nixon, and even Nixon wasn't actually impeached.
This isn't the first of your sources which annoying popup windows. I hate that!
Actually, I think it may have been the same one (Daily Caller) - they have some good articles but I've got it throttled at home - I don't even browse to it on Windows because of all the spew it hosts.
From what I read, I don't think I'd want The Jebster but then, my judgement is suspect.
Sounds to me like it's working fine, but then I find that hard to believe about you in any event. However, Jeb's quite a pol, and we don't need another pol.
I just want to see a Rep at the top now
Given what appears to be the current slate, combined with the 'tude from Congress, I'm not at all sure that I'd agree. Sucks that we don't have 3rd party in any powerful position...
 

krischan

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Stalinist, leftist, corrupt, that's ridiculous. So the populace doesn't have the guts to remove him. Which kind of guts is needed if you cannot elect or impeach a corrupt stalinist out of his office? Do you have the needed guts? I would agree that he's a silver-tongued person whose deeds don't match his words well enough, however, but next time a different president will be elected. I'm curious which kind of a better person he or she will be, heh heh.
 

jmervyn

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Stalinist, leftist, corrupt, that's ridiculous.
Sorry, but that's simply not the case. You're confusing character with action - and Obama's character was a known quantity to those who bothered to listen to him. He believes in confiscatory, totalitarian power in his hands in order to mete out his holy benevolence to the poor, black, and unionized - and to punish everyone who is 'against him'.

If you think this is hyperbole on my part, you obviously haven't heard his speeches or interviews. As for corruption, it too is a known quantity - search Google on Rezko and Blagojevich.

The reason you're confused about where I'm coming up with this is that you're comparing him to past figures with dictatorial aspirations, and only seeing things through the filter of your very biased media. I would bet "dollars to doughnuts" that there's no reputable German media representing what in the U.S. is the Libertarian or Conservative points of view.

Obama has spoken admiringly about wanting the U.S. to operate more like China, and certainly has made vast strides in advancing the so-called "Imperial Presidency" (which Bush Jr. was constantly accused of). However, Obama's simply not got the power (and no longer has the Dem support) to do what he wants to, even when he had an obedient Congress, and will look increasingly desperate in the next two years now that Congress is against him.
Which kind of guts is needed if you cannot elect or impeach a corrupt stalinist out of his office? Do you have the needed guts?
Not at all. I'm just following orders, remember?

Furthermore, the politicians are the ones who are supposed to bring the matter to court, and they're far to cowardly (and corrupt) to do so. There's a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that the establishment GOP is certainly far more numerous than I had thought, and they're just as Progressive/totalitarian-loving as their counterparts.
I'm curious which kind of a better person he or she will be, heh heh.
More of the same, seemingly, which may lead to a schism in the GOP. There's no moderate Democrat party members remaining to speak of - just those who used to be labeled Independent to fool the stupids, or people who crossed party "lines" to get more votes. Webb is one of the latter.
 

BobCox2

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I would vote for any party that was not corrupt but if they got power...

It's mostly how corrupt and who do they sell two and keep promises to, the voters or the high bidder?
 
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