Hardcore Official!!!!!

[Sepharia]

Re: Hardcore Official!!!!!

Hardcore will be in the game for me regardless of whether or not Blizzard puts it in as a feature. If my character dies, I'll exit the game and delete her.

Granted, I'd like to see the feature there, don't get me wrong. But, if they cut it for some reason, I have my ghetto HC to fall back on.

 

[studyhall]

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I have my ghetto HC to fall back on.

Lol.. amusing idea but one question, how is it a "ghetto" idea. Do you honestly know what a ghetto is and how your idea is nothing even closely related to a ghetto?

 

[LifeAfterDeath]

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Lol.. amusing idea but one question, how is it a "ghetto" idea. Do you honestly know what a ghetto is and how your idea is nothing even closely related to a ghetto?

Ah white people....they just don't get it.

 

[Sepharia]

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Lol.. amusing idea but one question, how is it a "ghetto" idea. Do you honestly know what a ghetto is and how your idea is nothing even closely related to a ghetto?

Wow... Way to take things WAY too literal... High five. :thumbup:

 

[jarpy]

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Hardcore will be in the game for me regardless of whether or not Blizzard puts it in as a feature. If my character dies, I'll exit the game and delete her.

Exactly! :thumbup: Hardcore doesn't need a checkbox in the interface, you just need the dicipline to decide that your character is dead.

I used to play D1 like that. Calling it "One Life/One Death" as "Hardcore" hadn't been invented yet.

 

[MYK]

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Exactly! :thumbup: Hardcore doesn't need a checkbox in the interface, you just need the dicipline to decide that your character is dead.

I used to play D1 like that. Calling it "One Life/One Death" as "Hardcore" hadn't been invented yet.

Oh boy.

You don't "need" a lot of things if you're basing your gameplay on self imposed rules. I think it reflects a lack of content if you have to pretend that something is there that's not, in a video game.

In D2 when you killed Hell Baal you're granted the title "Guardian" if done in HC and Patriarch/Matriarch when done in SC. To me, hardcore is a way of saying, "put your money where your mouth is, if you can!" You either get there or you really don't. No pretending necessary. :thumbup:

 

[jarpy]

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Oh boy.
You don't "need" a lot of things if you're basing your gameplay on self imposed rules. I think it reflects a lack of content if you have to pretend that something is there that's not, in a video game.

If we think of video games as a subset of games generally, I don't think it's so strange to create player-imposed rules. Card games, board games, role-playing games et al. all require the player to implement the rules themselves. The players accept a set of rules that constitute the game. By agreeing to different rules, the players can alter the game. As a gamer in general, rather than a video gamer specifically, it's natural for me to see a video game as a ruleset that can be extended by consent of the players.

In general gaming, changes of this type are "house rules". In a video gaming context you could call it a mod. It's just that the mod is implemented in the imagination of the players, not in the software.

 

[Akse]

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Those rules won't work in battle.net, have you seen whats the quality of people down there. It would create so much arguing etc. when people pretend something they haven't done. Thats why its good to have a system that shows whats really going on.

 

[jarpy]

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Fair enough. If you wanted to able to prove to others that your character had never died, then I guess you do need hard rules in the game engine. For me, hardcore is more of a personal commitment. I don't mind if battlenet folk are unaware or unbelieving.

So I guess that self-imposed hardcore can be valid or flawed. It depends on your motivation for wanting to play that way.

All this aside, I'm pretty confident that D3 with have a built-in hardcore mode anyway. It's so easy to implement that I can't imagine them dropping it.

 

[Sepharia]

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For me, hardcore is more of a personal commitment. I don't mind if battlenet folk are unaware or unbelieving.

^ This. I don't care about the bragging rights, or letting the world see how uber awesome I am. But, I understand that a lot of people do like it for that reason, and I don't have a problem with that at all. People should play the game to have fun, and if that is fun for them then more power to 'em.

Maybe I wasn't totally clear, but I'm all for a hardcore system in D3.. I hope it's there. I'm just saying, that if it's not, it wouldn't be the end of the world for me, that's all. Though I can certainly see how a lot of folks would be upset over it, and I wouldn't blame them. :yes:

 

[Akse]

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Fair enough. If you wanted to able to prove to others that your character had never died, then I guess you do need hard rules in the game engine. For me, hardcore is more of a personal commitment. I don't mind if battlenet folk are unaware or unbelieving.

So I guess that self-imposed hardcore can be valid or flawed. It depends on your motivation for wanting to play that way.

All this aside, I'm pretty confident that D3 with have a built-in hardcore mode anyway. It's so easy to implement that I can't imagine them dropping it.

I only would just want to have hardcore and sorftcore so that there would be 2 different communities. From my experience the hardcore community has always been better for me. It's smaller and people behave better in there.

 

[Ragefist]

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I only would just want to have hardcore and sorftcore so that there would be 2 different communities. From my experience the hardcore community has always been better for me. It's smaller and people behave better in there.

Yes, this is a good point. The hardcore cummunity is usually full of competent players.

 

[crazybs]

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I don't know about hardcore and how great of an idea it is online with server issues and latency and other random acts of nature. Single player would be ok, since it's all local.

Let's just say I've had too many random hardcore characters die because bnet decided to drop some insanely high ping on me at the wrong time. Either way, they'll probably put it in because it's cool seeing robed figures in chat rooms, ha.

 

[Gonzo]

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I only would just want to have hardcore and sorftcore so that there would be 2 different communities. From my experience the hardcore community has always been better for me. It's smaller and people behave better in there.

That's why the very existence of hardcore makes softcore worse. If there was no hardcore then softcore would be better since those players would influence the others.

 

[konnu]

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I never liked HC. that said, take what i say with grain of salt.

Maybe make a softcore version of HC where you'd lose all your equipment and considerable amount of levels. Say 10% off of your current level would mean if you die level 90 chracter, you'd lose 9 levels and all your gear. Add in a few days worth of resurection sickness too -10% all stats.

Edit: I'd like to see some heavy penalty to death in softcore too. I detest the WOW battlegrounds respawn mechanic

 

[LucianDK]

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If any of you remember Diablo1. When you died, you dropped -all- the equipment you carried on your person, leaving you stark naked. It was nearly fatal to both Warrior and Rogue types. Only Sorcerers, being skill based for damage, could hope of having a chance to recover the items.