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Hardcore Ladder Reset Sorc

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  1. Chasecar

    Chasecar Diabloii.Net Member

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    Hardcore Ladder Reset Sorc

    I'm figuring that ES may make early HC easier to survive in. We typically wait until 60+ at least to begin hell. I'd be doing a lot of NM Andy and Meph for a while until hopefully Hell Meph. I'd plan on my merc at least having insight, which would greatly help mana regen since my mana will hurt when I get smacked.

    Would ES be worth the trouble?

    Max Block or no?

    Skills

    Cold
    20 Blizzard
    20 Ice Blast
    1+ Cold Mastery
    1 Glacial Spike
    1 Frozen Armor
    20 Ice Bolt
    1 pre-req

    Light
    20 TK
    1 Tele
    1 ES
    3 pre-req

    Fire
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    Re: Hardcore Ladder Reset Sorc

    definately max block. It helps a lot vs mana burn mobs ( cause if you block the attack you don't get burned)

    and i think ES is worth the trouble, it ups your survivability and you should have enough killing power on a single element sorc to spend 20 points for TK.

    But even with ES make sure your health bubble is still larger than your mana bubble... don't go overboard with energy. Having high hp helps your FHR because if you don't take 8% of your life per hit you don't get stunned-- also you'll want a good stack of hit points in case you find a mana burn pack-- and if your mana is ever > than your hp, you get hit with blood mana curse which is just plain annoying. Think of your mana bar as some extra padding for your HP bar rather than your new HP bar. You'll also probably want to save any +mana charms you happen to find for added survivability.
     
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    Re: Hardcore Ladder Reset Sorc

    even though it's away from what you're planning, read this guide. it has a lot of good info.
     
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    Re: Hardcore Ladder Reset Sorc

    I actually think its 12% of your hp for fhr animation, but I'll have to check.

    I've seen the TK/Orb guide before, but I'm not sure if it's up to date. I'm not sure if insight existed in 2007 when it was written. We're also rather careful in HC where I'll likely highly out level everything in the area I'm in and I won't touch hell meph until I'm good and ready, but I'll consider the teleport points.
     
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    Re: Hardcore Ladder Reset Sorc

    http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Breakpoints

    ^this site says 1/12, which is 8.333~%

    edit:

    the other reason to max hp before mana is that the mana you lose from ES isn't affected by resists... you take .75 mana damage per damage absorbed no matter what your resists are and no matter what kind of damage. (.75 assumes max telekinesis). so vs mobs with mass elemental damage you're still better off stacking hp than mana (i assume your resists will be maxed since this is hardcore...). although if your mana is too low your mana doesn't regen fast enough so you want a good balance.


     
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    Re: Hardcore Ladder Reset Sorc

    Thanks. My 12% came from semi remembering 1/12.

    I think I may do TK blind tele until I can get max resists and then go pure blizzard or blizzard w/ tele points.
     
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    Re: Hardcore Ladder Reset Sorc

    if you'd read it, you'd know it's up to date. i believe it even says:
    he dismisses insight as an inferior weapon for running meph as it wont keep your merc from getting killed. i'm also sure that you could run without a merc and use the moat trick.

    like his guide isnt written for HC? i'm confused, i've been following most of Socialism's suggestions for a month on SP HC and have yet to even have something close to an NDE. run nm meph till you get gear to run hell meph, then run him till you're done. boring but effective.



     
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    Re: Hardcore Ladder Reset Sorc

    Okay silly question what does TK do for the build?
     
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    Re: Hardcore Ladder Reset Sorc

    TK increases the efficiency of energy shield. with zero points in TK you lose 2.0 mana per damage absorbed. with 20 points in TK you lose .75 mana per damage absorbed. (note that only hard points have effect on this, +skills doesn't matter for TK).

    Max TK is basically mandatory for any serious ES build... most ES builds don't max energy shield itself but they should always max telekinesis.


     
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    Re: Hardcore Ladder Reset Sorc

    Okay that explains why, I never use Energy Shield. Good to know.



     
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    Re: Hardcore Ladder Reset Sorc

    For a pure blizzard in HC, I'd definitely say its worth the trouble. After all, that one death is it, so the focus on survivability is a lot more important. Outside of HC, the only real reason to have a maxblock/es sorc would be pvp.
     
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    Re: Hardcore Ladder Reset Sorc

    or keyset/orgset runs...

    I have a fireball/meteor sorc that's maxblock/ES... yes she's built for dueling but i also use her to run for keysets and orgsets... she can very quickly gather all of the keys and orgs.

    Nihl is so easy to kill with this build that i find myself trading dkeys in mass for any other key (for some reason people will often give me 2 or 3 for 1 for my dkeys)... summoner is easy on any class... infinity removes countess's fire immunity and even if i didn't have an infinity my merc should be able to poke her a couple of times and she dies.

    uber Izual and uber duriel are extremely quick and simple... 'course she needs to stock a few full juvs for lilith but who the hell doesn't? their life regen isn't a problem as the firepit from meteor seems to prevent this.

    i also find that maxblock/es helps a lot for suvivability for general purpose MF if you're undergeared... i'll usually go maxblock/es early in ladder-- although once i get a CTA i don't really need it.


     
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    Re: Hardcore Ladder Reset Sorc

    or 20 tk 20 es 20 orb 16 mastery rest in ice bolt 60%life/40%mana
     

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