Hammerdin Questions

Ashmer Amadeus

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Hammerdin Questions

I'm working on a hammerdin, and I've got a few questions.

I believe 125 fcr is the max for a hammerdin. How important is it to have that amount. This is what I was thinking of for gear

Helm: Shako
Weapon: Wizard Spike
Shield: Herald of Zakrum
Armor: Guardian Angel
Weapon2: CTA
Shield2: Spirit
Belt: Arachnid Mesh
Gloves: Magefist
Amulet: Seraphs Hymm
Ring1: ??
Ring2: ??

This gives me a total of 70fcr. Is that enough? I could use a spirit shield full time. Or maybe just gamble some fcr ring? I think I will have six LB skillers so I should have plenty of +Skills. Just want to make sure everything else is taken care of. Also, would it be worth my while to put a weapon with CB on switch and put a point into zeal as a way to kill bosses? And while I don't anticipate having many extra skill points, would defiance be a good place to put them? Many thanks all.
 

BobTheWarrior

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Re: Hammerdin Questions

You'll want another 5 fcr to reach the 75 breakpoint. If you can get to 125 without sacrificing anything important to you (a skill point or two, some mf...) go for it. Faster damage is always better.

For rings, probably a Ravenfrost for CBF? The other could be a rare with fcr to reach the 75 breakpoint. If you want to go for 125, a 2 skill 20 fcr amulet would be nice (and expensive).

Having some CB on switch wouldn't be a bad idea, but I don't know if you'll want to waste any points getting zeal when you'll already have smite (which will transfer crushing blows and, iirc, doesn't miss).

Defiance or Holy Shield is generally where spare points are spent.
 

muzzz

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Re: Hammerdin Questions

You've got more than 70 FCR listed there.

IIRC, the next-to-last pally breakpoint is at 75 FCR. Both that and 125 work well, IMO. Although I'd personally go for a little more +skills in a 75 FCR setup. Anything in-between is a complete waste.
 

sirpoopsalot

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Re: Hammerdin Questions

I think 75 is a casting breakpoint, so it would definitely make sense to have at least 1 FCR ring with your planned setup. (edit: or, reading above posts, maybe not :p)

I think I went with 75 FCR on my MF-hammerdin, and didn't complain. I didn't try for 125, but I'm not convinced it would be a huge improvement. (Still, I like 200 FCR sorcs a lot better than 105 FCR sorcs, so maybe it would be better after all...)

On lower settings, I didn't have any real problems killing bosses with hammers. Switching doesn't seem significantly faster to me, and if you want a 'utility-switch' like a CtA, a Naj's Puzzler, or maybe even an MF-boost, you can get by with just the hammers ok (not necessarily "great", but definitely "ok").

As for the remaining skillpoints, HolyShield & synergies seem like a better fit to me. I often like to have redemption and meditation too, which can eat up a few points, and if you plan to face much for undead, I think Sanctuary is also a very good idea.
 

TheSupercrab

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Re: Hammerdin Questions

FCR is really important. When i first built my hammerdin i only went for 75 FCR, which was alright. However i found that when i changed to 125 my killing power/ease of play increased dramatically.

35 from spirit
50 from Wizzie
20 from Aracnids
20 from trangs/mage fists

the rest of ur gear is identical to mine :).
 

zarirazz

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Re: Hammerdin Questions

i was another 125fcr convert. definitely feel much safer having more hammers in the air and more likely for monsters to enter the killing radius and get hit..

and i recommend the cb switch on bosses if you don't like the hassle of positioning yourself around the boss.
 

Ashmer Amadeus

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Re: Hammerdin Questions

Corpses will probly be used for CE, as this will be a MP charicter. I'm hoping Wizzy plus shako plus insight will help will any mana issues. I supose if I want 125 fcr I have a few options. GA could become skins, gaining 30 fcr. HoZ could be Spirit, gaining upto 35fcr. Are there any boots with fcr? Silkweaves or something? I could also trade for a +2/20 fcr circlet or amulet, although I doubt I have the wealth for something like that. Extra points may go into smite. I didn't know that CB transfered. Hammers are a pain to aim. Might just try smiting the crap out of bosses. Between the necros decrep and smite KB, it shoudn't be too hard. I wll take a look at my stashes and see what I can come up with for FCR gear. Thanks all.
 

Eric Xanthu

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Re: Hammerdin Questions

If you want to do some boss killing, try smite and 1 pt fanaticism. The only regret I have with my hammerdin is the trouble I have killing P8 Lister; everything else is a joke.
 

Dodgydave

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Re: Hammerdin Questions

Corpses will probly be used for CE, as this will be a MP charicter. I'm hoping Wizzy plus shako plus insight will help will any mana issues. I supose if I want 125 fcr I have a few options. GA could become skins, gaining 30 fcr. HoZ could be Spirit, gaining upto 35fcr. Are there any boots with fcr? Silkweaves or something? I could also trade for a +2/20 fcr circlet or amulet, although I doubt I have the wealth for something like that. Extra points may go into smite. I didn't know that CB transfered. Hammers are a pain to aim. Might just try smiting the crap out of bosses. Between the necros decrep and smite KB, it shoudn't be too hard. I wll take a look at my stashes and see what I can come up with for FCR gear. Thanks all.
I use

Shako, +2 combat/15%FCR/10dex crafted ammy, Skin, HOTO, HOZ, Magefist, Arachnid Mesh, WT, rare Mana/Str ring and Ravenfrost on mine to get 125% FCR.

Should be lost easier if you play RWM and use spirit though.



 

sirpoopsalot

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Re: Hammerdin Questions

Sadly, none that I know of.
yep. none.

It does, and very effective at that I heard. :smiley:
Smite is: ITD, and Unblockable, too.
Downside, no leech. So Life Tap is important to have. But since we're talking about Hammerdins, potions would be a better option.


--maxgerin

Maybe. I liked using Drac's on my hammerdin... the +Life per Kill is kindof like leeching for casters... and if you're needing LifeTap... :wink2:

(using Drac's makes it a little harder to hit 125 FCR though)



 

muzzz

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Re: Hammerdin Questions

If you want to do some boss killing, try smite and 1 pt fanaticism.
Seconded. And you'll mainly be using smite against stuff like Baal, who doesn't hit that hard. Potions should definitely suffice, I think.

And a minor nitpick: smite isn't ITD, it's auto-hit.



 
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