Hammerdin or Liberator? I want to make a (mainly) PvM pally for ladder play with my buddy, but I'm not sure if I want to make a pure hammerdin or a hammer/charge hybrid, the libby. For those of you who've tried both, which one did you have more fun with? If I make a libby, I probably won't be putting too many points, if any, into Blessed Aim. Will this drastically reduce my hammer damage? What would my max hammer damage be with max BH, Conc, and Vigor? I'm also wondering about equipment. A hammerdin always goes for fast cast, with things like the suicide branch and later a wizard spike or hoto, but a libby needs to be able to do good damage with charge. Since I'm ladder, a grief phase blade would be my ultimate goal (awesome damage, plus smite suddenly becomes useful even with only 1 point in it), but that's a long ways off. Any suggestions would be welcome. Basically, is the lower hammer damage worth having max charge?