Guardian # 1 - Isabella - The Untwinked Fishyzon carried by Duress

Caralis

Diabloii.Net Member
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Well, im totally new to this, really happy to see this char completed. I enjoyed this char and HC as a whole. I was in the middle of the road for so long wanting to try HC but doubting about losing really good gear in a split of a second.
But those days are long gone, i really want to put focus on HC. It's the diablo i enjoy.
I will focus mainly in untwinked gameplay with some twinked efficiency builds here and there.

In terms of gameplay i was really amazed how well duress performed on merc (Ilzan i love you). I got the Um from countess while farming a Lum for smoke. And that runeword just carried me all the way to Baal.

Other than that, pretty straightfoward build, i started with poison javelin. Then moved to LF and in early hell respected to Fishy.


So, now to the important part:

Stats:

Name: Isabella
Class: Amazon
Experience: 978091055
Level: 84

Naked/Gear
Strength: 156/156
Dexterity: 65/69
Vitality: 269/291
Energy: 15/35
HP: 1023/1307
Mana: 139/327
Stamina: 416/446
Defense: 16/483
AR: 295/347

Fire: 190/150/90
Cold: 146/106/46
Lightning: 194/154/94
Poison: 174/134/74

MF: 34 Block: 15
GF: 0
FR/W: 30
FHR: 85
IAS: 20
FCR: 37

Skills:

Magic Arrow: 0/0
Fire Arrow: 0/0
Cold Arrow: 20/25
Multiple Shot: 0/0
Exploding Arrow: 0/0
Ice Arrow: 1/6
Guided Arrow: 0/0
Strafe: 0/0
Immolation Arrow: 0/0
Freezing Arrow: 20/25

Inner Sight: 1/6
Critical Strike: 1/6
Dodge: 0/0
Slow Missiles: 1/6
Avoid: 0/0
Penetrate: 1/6
Decoy: 1/6
Evade: 0/0
Valkyrie: 0/0
Pierce: 1/6

Jab: 1/8
Power Strike: 1/8
Poison Javelin: 1/8
Impale: 0/0
Lightning Bolt: 1/8
Charged Strike: 20/27
Plague Javelin: 1/8
Fend: 0/0
Lightning Strike: 3/10
Lightning Fury: 20/27

Gear:

Trang-Oul's Girth
Troll Belt
Defense: 148
Durability: 18 of 18
Required Level: 62
Required Strength: 33
Fingerprint: 0xf3aa9161
Item Level: **
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+84 Defense
+66 to Life
Replenish Life +5
+39 to Mana
+30 Maximum Stamina
Cannot Be Frozen
Requirements -40%
Set (3 items): Cold Resist +40%


Entropy Coil
Ring
Required Level: 74
Fingerprint: 0x339e580f
Item Level: 94
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+1 to Maximum Damage
+32 to Attack Rating
6% Mana stolen per hit
+36 to Life
+16 to Mana

Bone Tread
Battle Boots
Defense: 65
Durability: 18 of 18
Required Level: 29
Required Strength: 95
Fingerprint: 0xf461c4f3
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+30% Faster Run/Walk
+10% Faster Hit Recovery
+37% Enhanced Defense
Fire Resist +25%
Poison Resist +31%
25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Spirit
Monarch
TalThulOrtAmn
Defense: 139
Chance to Block: 0
Durability: 86 of 86
Required Level: 54
Required Strength: 156
Fingerprint: 0x62485bd9
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to All Skills
+27% Faster Cast Rate
+55% Faster Hit Recovery
+250 Defense vs. Missile
+22 to Vitality
+89 to Mana
Cold Resist +35%
Lightning Resist +35%
Poison Resist +35%
+4 Magic Absorb
Attacker Takes Damage of 14
4 Sockets (4 used)
Socketed: Tal Rune
Socketed: Thul Rune
Socketed: Ort Rune
Socketed: Amn Rune

Tal Rune
Required Level: 17
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 75 Poison Damage Over 5 Secs (125 Frames)
Armor: Poison Resist +30%
Shields: Poison Resist +35%

Thul Rune
Required Level: 23
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 3 - 14 Cold Damage Over 3 Secs (75 Frames)
Armor: Cold Resist +30%
Shields: Cold Resist +35%

Ort Rune
Required Level: 21
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 1 - 50 Lightning Damage
Armor: Lightning Resist +30%
Shields: Lightning Resist +35%

Amn Rune
Required Level: 25
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: 7% Life stolen per hit
Armor: Attacker Takes Damage of 14
Shields: Attacker Takes Damage of 14

Blood Mark
Amulet
Required Level: 18
Fingerprint: 0x8163fb34
Item Level: 34
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+39 to Life
Lightning Resist +20%
Poison Length Reduced by 25%

Lore
Superior Circlet
OrtSol
Defense: 35
Durability: 38 of 38
Required Level: 27
Fingerprint: 0x2aa30547
Item Level: 45
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+1 to All Skills
+13% Enhanced Defense
+10 to Energy
Lightning Resist +30%
Damage Reduced by 7
+2 to Mana after each Kill
+2 to Light Radius
Increase Maximum Durability 10%
2 Sockets (2 used)
Socketed: Ort Rune
Socketed: Sol Rune

Ort Rune
Required Level: 21
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 1 - 50 Lightning Damage
Armor: Lightning Resist +30%
Shields: Lightning Resist +35%

Sol Rune
Required Level: 27
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: +9 to Minimum Damage
Armor: Damage Reduced by 7
Shields: Damage Reduced by 7

Smoke
Superior Studded Leather
NefLum
Defense: 66
Durability: 35 of 35
Required Level: 37
Required Strength: 27
Fingerprint: 0xca1049ed
Item Level: 76
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+20% Faster Hit Recovery
+85% Enhanced Defense
+280 Defense vs. Missile
+10 to Energy
All Resistances +50
-1 to Light Radius
Increase Maximum Durability 12%
Level 6 Weaken (18/18 Charges)
2 Sockets (2 used)
Socketed: Nef Rune
Socketed: Lum Rune

Nef Rune
Required Level: 13
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Knockback
Armor: +30 Defense vs. Missile
Shields: +30 Defense vs. Missile

Lum Rune
Required Level: 37
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: +10 to Energy
Armor: +10 to Energy
Shields: +10 to Energy

Valkyrie's Throwing Spear of the Bear
Throwing Spear
Throw Damage: 12 - 30
One Hand Damage: 5 - 15
Quantity: 56
Required Level: 42
Required Dexterity: 65
Fingerprint: 0x8fbc3713
Item Level: 67
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to Amazon Skill Levels
Knockback

Bone Clutches
Chain Gloves
Defense: 13
Durability: 16 of 16
Required Level: 35
Required Strength: 25
Fingerprint: 0xe196194d
Item Level: 68
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+2 to Javelin and Spear Skills (Amazon Only)
+20% Increased Attack Speed
+31% Enhanced Defense
+4 to Dexterity
Fire Resist +28%

Wraith Finger
Ring
Required Level: 48
Fingerprint: 0xdcbf826
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+10% Faster Cast Rate
All Resistances +10
Poison Resist +5%
9% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

Melody
Superior Short Battle Bow
ShaelKoNef
Two Hand Damage: 7 - 16
Durability: 38 of 40
Required Level: 39
Required Strength: 30
Required Dexterity: 40
Fingerprint: 0x85e3951c
Item Level: 66
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+3 to Bow and Crossbow Skills (Amazon Only)
+20% Increased Attack Speed
50% Enhanced Damage
+3 to Attack Rating
+300% Damage to Undead
+3 to Slow Missiles (Amazon Only)
+3 to Dodge (Amazon Only)
+3 to Critical Strike (Amazon Only)
Knockback
+10 to Dexterity
3 Sockets (3 used)
Socketed: Shael Rune
Socketed: Ko Rune
Socketed: Nef Rune

Shael Rune
Required Level: 29
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: +20% Increased Attack Speed
Armor: +20% Faster Hit Recovery
Shields: +20% Faster Block Rate

Ko Rune
Required Level: 39
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: +10 to Dexterity
Armor: +10 to Dexterity
Shields: +10 to Dexterity

Nef Rune
Required Level: 13
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Knockback
Armor: +30 Defense vs. Missile
Shields: +30 Defense vs. Missile

Arrows
Fingerprint: 0x701d09c3
Item Level: 89
Version: Expansion 1.10+

Grim Wand of Lower Resistance
Grim Wand
One Hand Damage: 5 - 11
Durability: 15 of 15
Required Level: 36
Fingerprint: 0x4b365406
Item Level: 82
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+1 to Decrepify (Necromancer Only)
Level 2 Lower Resist (19/75 Charges)

Charms:

Lapis Large Charm of Frost
Large Charm
Required Level: 12
Fingerprint: 0xbdb2a02d
Item Level: 73
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Adds 1 - 2 Cold Damage Over 1 Secs (25 Frames)
Cold Resist +10%

Amber Large Charm
Large Charm
Required Level: 27
Fingerprint: 0x2148e903
Item Level: 82
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Lightning Resist +14%

Large Charm of Sustenance
Large Charm
Required Level: 19
Fingerprint: 0xe661e548
Item Level: 66
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+18 to Life

Ruby Large Charm of Sustenance
Large Charm
Required Level: 34
Fingerprint: 0xa43a86cf
Item Level: 82
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+21 to Life
Fire Resist +13%

Large Charm of Sustenance
Large Charm
Required Level: 19
Fingerprint: 0xb5cbdf4d
Item Level: 85
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+19 to Life

Large Charm of Life
Large Charm
Required Level: 9
Fingerprint: 0x5d5e2233
Item Level: 45
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+12 to Life

Stout Large Charm of Sustenance
Large Charm
Required Level: 34
Fingerprint: 0x22cd2380
Item Level: 65
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+3 Defense
+21 to Life

Ruby Grand Charm
Grand Charm
Required Level: 22
Fingerprint: 0x265a6bd1
Item Level: 82
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Fire Resist +29%

Shimmering Grand Charm of Sustenance
Grand Charm
Required Level: 27
Fingerprint: 0xa42bbd33
Item Level: 84
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+23 to Life
All Resistances +15

Jade Small Charm of Sustenance
Small Charm
Required Level: 20
Fingerprint: 0x27f3dcf2
Item Level: 79
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+15 to Life
Poison Resist +8%

Serpent's Grand Charm
Grand Charm
Required Level: 29
Fingerprint: 0x9cb4aef7
Item Level: 45
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+44 to Mana

Lapis Small Charm
Small Charm
Required Level: 10
Fingerprint: 0x98f2d283
Item Level: 11
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Cold Resist +6%

Stout Small Charm of Sustenance
Small Charm
Required Level: 17
Fingerprint: 0xd5fd3223
Item Level: 82
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+8 Defense
+14 to Life

Mercenary:

Name: Ilzan
Race: Desert Mercenary
Type: Off-Nightmare
Experience: 71985398
Level: 84
Dead?: false

Naked/Gear
Strength: 184/189
Dexterity: 148/153
HP: 1727/1727
Defense: 1274/2743
AR: 1898/373906

Fire: 163/123/63
Cold: 193/153/93
Lightning: 163/123/63
Poison: 213/173/113

Undead Crown
Crown
Defense: 107
Durability: 30 of 50
Required Level: 29
Required Strength: 55
Fingerprint: 0xe50cfc7a
Item Level: 82
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+50% Damage to Undead
+92 to Attack Rating against Undead
5% Life stolen per hit
+3 to Skeleton Mastery (Necromancer Only)
+47% Enhanced Defense
+40 Defense
Poison Resist +50%
Half Freeze Duration


Duress
Dusk Shroud
ShaelUmThul
Defense: 1362
Durability: 11 of 20
Required Level: 49
Required Strength: 77
Fingerprint: 0x118a545
Item Level: 73
Version: Expansion 1.10+
+40% Faster Hit Recovery
11% Enhanced Damage
Adds 37 - 133 Cold Damage Over 2 Secs (50 Frames)
15% Chance of Crushing Blow
33% Chance of Open Wounds
+193% Enhanced Defense
-20% Slower Stamina Drain
Cold Resist +30%
All Resistances +15
3 Sockets (3 used)
Socketed: Shael Rune
Socketed: Um Rune
Socketed: Thul Rune

Shael Rune
Required Level: 29
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: +20% Increased Attack Speed
Armor: +20% Faster Hit Recovery
Shields: +20% Faster Block Rate

Um Rune
Required Level: 47
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: 25% Chance of Open Wounds
Armor: Cold Resist +15%
Lightning Resist +15%
Fire Resist +15%
Poison Resist +15%
Shields: Cold Resist +22%
Lightning Resist +22%
Fire Resist +22%
Poison Resist +22%

Thul Rune
Required Level: 23
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 3 - 14 Cold Damage Over 3 Secs (75 Frames)
Armor: Cold Resist +30%
Shields: Cold Resist +35%


Insight
Thresher
RalTirTalSol
Two Hand Damage: 46 - 435
Durability: 55 of 65
Required Level: 53
Required Strength: 152
Required Dexterity: 118
Fingerprint: 0x4b44b8f9
Item Level: 80
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Level 13 Meditation Aura When Equipped
+35% Faster Cast Rate
209% Enhanced Damage
+9 to Minimum Damage
196% Bonus to Attack Rating
Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
Adds 75 Poison Damage Over 5 Secs (125 Frames)
+2 to Critical Strike
All Stats +5
+2 to Mana after each Kill
23% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
4 Sockets (4 used)
Socketed: Ral Rune
Socketed: Tir Rune
Socketed: Tal Rune
Socketed: Sol Rune

Ral Rune
Required Level: 19
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
Armor: Fire Resist +30%
Shields: Fire Resist +35%

Tir Rune
Required Level: 13
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: +2 to Mana after each Kill
Armor: +2 to Mana after each Kill
Shields: +2 to Mana after each Kill

Tal Rune
Required Level: 17
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: Adds 75 Poison Damage Over 5 Secs (125 Frames)
Armor: Poison Resist +30%
Shields: Poison Resist +35%

Sol Rune
Required Level: 27
Version: Expansion 1.10+
Weapons: +9 to Minimum Damage
Armor: Damage Reduced by 7
Shields: Damage Reduced by 7

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It was really hard to beat ancients, it took me almost half an hour and i almost ran out of mana pots.
Obviously Maggot lair was also a pain in the ass, i remember a couple NDE there and also in plains of despair due to crazy bosspacks.

My best finds on this char (also in the IFT):

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And finally:

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Have a nice day!
 

mir

Diabloii.Net Member
Congratulations!

This is one build that I never tried before, so hard not to max valk on an amazon.....:(
 

RIP

Diabloii.Net Member
HC is the only way to go :)...i've actually played only my first character through NM difficulty as softcore char, then turned to HC and never looked back...15 Years ago :p

Big congratulations, the first one is always special, and may Your next journeys are at least as satisfactory as this one has been..GL ;)
 

Caralis

Diabloii.Net Member
Thank you all for the replies guys!

@drmalawi I have 5 chars waiting lol. Probably a freeze zealot sitting on act 1 NM or a Meteorb to acumulate a bit of gear for twinked chars.
@Kitteh I dont know if you can max valk in this build, you lose a lot of power in FA. That's why i went for 1 point in decoy. I rarely used though, only for ancients (although it wasn't needed) and for Baal (decrepify). For your guardian is other story, you can afford that kind of commitment.
@RIP I enjoy softcore for efficiency play, but you can also do it on HC! Double the FUN!
 

Kitteh

Diabloii.Net Site Pal
This is very true, you would have to adapt a bit. It doesn't sound like it was a big problem for you though.
 

crawlingdeadman

Diabloii.Net Member
Congratulations, the first is the hardest. Then after you get a few under your belt, you have to worry about being overconfident. Good luck in HC!
 

DaveW

Diabloii.Net Member
Nice work Caralis, the first is the sweetest. Any plans for her? I know NF recommended a FishyZon as a dedicated WSK runner. Or Pits as well I reckon. Slow missile/Decoys for Archers and the rest of the monsters would be straight forward. Anyway GL for future HC chars.
 

Caralis

Diabloii.Net Member
@crawlingdeadman We will see in my next playthrough how i manage the game going a bit faster. I will try to speedrun a bit more.

@DaveW For now she is farming P1 Pindle/Eldritch for some gear, i want to get razortail, titan's and ravenfrost. Once i get them i will try both. I need some insight on running WSK though. The first thing that comes to mind is Tgods.
It will be cool to make an enigmaless barb for WSK. Probably my first twinked HC char. Already found arreat's, 2 oath bases and 2 Echoing spears on this playthrough.

@T72on1 nope :( Horizon's Tornado. At least it is a rare item.
 

TedDeeBoy

Diabloii.Net Member
Congrats and respect on your 1st Guardian. I run a Fishyzon in the AT with base vita version in SC . It is quite good. Use a upped -35% Wizendraw which kills quite kills quite well and has old school style.
 

JoeBruce

Diabloii.Net Member
Well done! That first guardian is indeed a sweet one. I too like to have untwinked players going but also some that I can use the cool items which drop.

I think it's funny (and typical) that you managed to find some really sweet items, but others were things you could shop for. On untwinked characters that is often the case.

The decision to go without valkyrie can be a tough/controversial one, but it is true to the "Fishyzon" build; I believe I read Nightfish saying he opts out of any kind of summonable tank (i.e. no bear on a druid, no shadow on assassin - obvious exception of something like the "Fishymancer"). I don't recall their logic for that, and I would disagree, but Nightfish did guardian 50+ characters... probably why I would choose the safety of the tank, because I only have ~3 :rolleyes:

edit: First line to read "Masterfully done, hero!"
 

Caralis

Diabloii.Net Member
Again guys, thank for the replies, really appreciated.

@TedDeeBoy For now is Pindle/Eldritch until i get better gear, mainly tgods, ravenfrost, razortail and titan's (some toys to try different setups)

@JoeBruce I farmed quite a lot with this char to achive that gear, as i said to @crawlingdeadman i will try to go faster with every guardian, just to challenge myself. Like those boots, Spirit Monarch and +2 20s with good FR are way above the category of "Untwinked". And even with that items the game presented a tought challenge in hell.

Back to the Valk discussion. I think its a nice complement, like for sure i will have a easier time in some parts of the playthrough. Ancients was a mess, i was 20 min trying to keep alive my merc so he can apply CB, i solved that problem wearing duress myself and applying CB via LF. Then i finished Madawc LI using Lower resist wand.

I will try to play a bit more around valk on my next amazon. And i really enjoy having this theorycraft discussion about builds with other HC players (like this one brought by @Kitteh).

BTW what do you guys think about slower missiles?
 

TedDeeBoy

Diabloii.Net Member
Excellent work

SM is very useful against archers, spike beasts, dangerous LE bosses and Madawc if you can cast it fast enough and have a long enough duration for it. 30 sec minimum for it to useful in hell in IMHO. if you play the WSK it will be useful. For AT runs I usually just shoot or blast them except for LI/CI. But you can put go Jab or 1pt MA and pink away with the bow

This build I never went with a Valk in SC but for the first guardian it is a brave call.
 

Kitteh

Diabloii.Net Site Pal
I typically use slow missiles for witches, archers and mages. I think that valk depends a lot on your build. Although, even if you don't max it, it is still a helpful tank. I recast mine a lot anyway.
 

JoeBruce

Diabloii.Net Member
Caralis - yeah I hesitated to use the term "untwinked" but went with it anyway. You have some pretty sweet gear there. I got the impression this character was all self-found, despite the farming runs.

Slow missiles is a life saver, especially through A5 where you have so many ranged attackers. It's more useful on an amazon with no shield.

You mentioned some NDEs in maggot lair - perhaps you were not casting the decoy ahead of you? That's how I utilize it, because running into an unknown area/room can be a quick trip to deeds. I do the same with the bear on my wind druid. Proper use of Decoy can render a valkyrie unnecessary. Although it is damn helpful for that ancients fight...

I always thought it interesting how the decoy will change weapons when you do. Proper, but puzzling.
 
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