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Guardian # 1 - Isabella - The Untwinked Fishyzon carried by Duress

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  1. Caralis

    Caralis Diabloii.Net Member

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    Well, im totally new to this, really happy to see this char completed. I enjoyed this char and HC as a whole. I was in the middle of the road for so long wanting to try HC but doubting about losing really good gear in a split of a second.
    But those days are long gone, i really want to put focus on HC. It's the diablo i enjoy.
    I will focus mainly in untwinked gameplay with some twinked efficiency builds here and there.

    In terms of gameplay i was really amazed how well duress performed on merc (Ilzan i love you). I got the Um from countess while farming a Lum for smoke. And that runeword just carried me all the way to Baal.

    Other than that, pretty straightfoward build, i started with poison javelin. Then moved to LF and in early hell respected to Fishy.


    So, now to the important part:

    Stats:

    Name: Isabella
    Class: Amazon
    Experience: 978091055
    Level: 84

    Naked/Gear
    Strength: 156/156
    Dexterity: 65/69
    Vitality: 269/291
    Energy: 15/35
    HP: 1023/1307
    Mana: 139/327
    Stamina: 416/446
    Defense: 16/483
    AR: 295/347

    Fire: 190/150/90
    Cold: 146/106/46
    Lightning: 194/154/94
    Poison: 174/134/74

    MF: 34 Block: 15
    GF: 0
    FR/W: 30
    FHR: 85
    IAS: 20
    FCR: 37

    Skills:

    Magic Arrow: 0/0
    Fire Arrow: 0/0
    Cold Arrow: 20/25
    Multiple Shot: 0/0
    Exploding Arrow: 0/0
    Ice Arrow: 1/6
    Guided Arrow: 0/0
    Strafe: 0/0
    Immolation Arrow: 0/0
    Freezing Arrow: 20/25

    Inner Sight: 1/6
    Critical Strike: 1/6
    Dodge: 0/0
    Slow Missiles: 1/6
    Avoid: 0/0
    Penetrate: 1/6
    Decoy: 1/6
    Evade: 0/0
    Valkyrie: 0/0
    Pierce: 1/6

    Jab: 1/8
    Power Strike: 1/8
    Poison Javelin: 1/8
    Impale: 0/0
    Lightning Bolt: 1/8
    Charged Strike: 20/27
    Plague Javelin: 1/8
    Fend: 0/0
    Lightning Strike: 3/10
    Lightning Fury: 20/27

    Gear:

    Trang-Oul's Girth
    Troll Belt
    Defense: 148
    Durability: 18 of 18
    Required Level: 62
    Required Strength: 33
    Fingerprint: 0xf3aa9161
    Item Level: **
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +84 Defense
    +66 to Life
    Replenish Life +5
    +39 to Mana
    +30 Maximum Stamina
    Cannot Be Frozen
    Requirements -40%
    Set (3 items): Cold Resist +40%


    Entropy Coil
    Ring
    Required Level: 74
    Fingerprint: 0x339e580f
    Item Level: 94
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +1 to Maximum Damage
    +32 to Attack Rating
    6% Mana stolen per hit
    +36 to Life
    +16 to Mana

    Bone Tread
    Battle Boots
    Defense: 65
    Durability: 18 of 18
    Required Level: 29
    Required Strength: 95
    Fingerprint: 0xf461c4f3
    Item Level: 80
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +30% Faster Run/Walk
    +10% Faster Hit Recovery
    +37% Enhanced Defense
    Fire Resist +25%
    Poison Resist +31%
    25% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

    Spirit
    Monarch
    TalThulOrtAmn
    Defense: 139
    Chance to Block: 0
    Durability: 86 of 86
    Required Level: 54
    Required Strength: 156
    Fingerprint: 0x62485bd9
    Item Level: 85
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +2 to All Skills
    +27% Faster Cast Rate
    +55% Faster Hit Recovery
    +250 Defense vs. Missile
    +22 to Vitality
    +89 to Mana
    Cold Resist +35%
    Lightning Resist +35%
    Poison Resist +35%
    +4 Magic Absorb
    Attacker Takes Damage of 14
    4 Sockets (4 used)
    Socketed: Tal Rune
    Socketed: Thul Rune
    Socketed: Ort Rune
    Socketed: Amn Rune

    Tal Rune
    Required Level: 17
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Weapons: Adds 75 Poison Damage Over 5 Secs (125 Frames)
    Armor: Poison Resist +30%
    Shields: Poison Resist +35%

    Thul Rune
    Required Level: 23
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Weapons: Adds 3 - 14 Cold Damage Over 3 Secs (75 Frames)
    Armor: Cold Resist +30%
    Shields: Cold Resist +35%

    Ort Rune
    Required Level: 21
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Weapons: Adds 1 - 50 Lightning Damage
    Armor: Lightning Resist +30%
    Shields: Lightning Resist +35%

    Amn Rune
    Required Level: 25
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Weapons: 7% Life stolen per hit
    Armor: Attacker Takes Damage of 14
    Shields: Attacker Takes Damage of 14

    Blood Mark
    Amulet
    Required Level: 18
    Fingerprint: 0x8163fb34
    Item Level: 34
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +39 to Life
    Lightning Resist +20%
    Poison Length Reduced by 25%

    Lore
    Superior Circlet
    OrtSol
    Defense: 35
    Durability: 38 of 38
    Required Level: 27
    Fingerprint: 0x2aa30547
    Item Level: 45
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +1 to All Skills
    +13% Enhanced Defense
    +10 to Energy
    Lightning Resist +30%
    Damage Reduced by 7
    +2 to Mana after each Kill
    +2 to Light Radius
    Increase Maximum Durability 10%
    2 Sockets (2 used)
    Socketed: Ort Rune
    Socketed: Sol Rune

    Ort Rune
    Required Level: 21
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Weapons: Adds 1 - 50 Lightning Damage
    Armor: Lightning Resist +30%
    Shields: Lightning Resist +35%

    Sol Rune
    Required Level: 27
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Weapons: +9 to Minimum Damage
    Armor: Damage Reduced by 7
    Shields: Damage Reduced by 7

    Smoke
    Superior Studded Leather
    NefLum
    Defense: 66
    Durability: 35 of 35
    Required Level: 37
    Required Strength: 27
    Fingerprint: 0xca1049ed
    Item Level: 76
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +20% Faster Hit Recovery
    +85% Enhanced Defense
    +280 Defense vs. Missile
    +10 to Energy
    All Resistances +50
    -1 to Light Radius
    Increase Maximum Durability 12%
    Level 6 Weaken (18/18 Charges)
    2 Sockets (2 used)
    Socketed: Nef Rune
    Socketed: Lum Rune

    Nef Rune
    Required Level: 13
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Weapons: Knockback
    Armor: +30 Defense vs. Missile
    Shields: +30 Defense vs. Missile

    Lum Rune
    Required Level: 37
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Weapons: +10 to Energy
    Armor: +10 to Energy
    Shields: +10 to Energy

    Valkyrie's Throwing Spear of the Bear
    Throwing Spear
    Throw Damage: 12 - 30
    One Hand Damage: 5 - 15
    Quantity: 56
    Required Level: 42
    Required Dexterity: 65
    Fingerprint: 0x8fbc3713
    Item Level: 67
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +2 to Amazon Skill Levels
    Knockback

    Bone Clutches
    Chain Gloves
    Defense: 13
    Durability: 16 of 16
    Required Level: 35
    Required Strength: 25
    Fingerprint: 0xe196194d
    Item Level: 68
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +2 to Javelin and Spear Skills (Amazon Only)
    +20% Increased Attack Speed
    +31% Enhanced Defense
    +4 to Dexterity
    Fire Resist +28%

    Wraith Finger
    Ring
    Required Level: 48
    Fingerprint: 0xdcbf826
    Item Level: 80
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +10% Faster Cast Rate
    All Resistances +10
    Poison Resist +5%
    9% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items

    Melody
    Superior Short Battle Bow
    ShaelKoNef
    Two Hand Damage: 7 - 16
    Durability: 38 of 40
    Required Level: 39
    Required Strength: 30
    Required Dexterity: 40
    Fingerprint: 0x85e3951c
    Item Level: 66
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +3 to Bow and Crossbow Skills (Amazon Only)
    +20% Increased Attack Speed
    50% Enhanced Damage
    +3 to Attack Rating
    +300% Damage to Undead
    +3 to Slow Missiles (Amazon Only)
    +3 to Dodge (Amazon Only)
    +3 to Critical Strike (Amazon Only)
    Knockback
    +10 to Dexterity
    3 Sockets (3 used)
    Socketed: Shael Rune
    Socketed: Ko Rune
    Socketed: Nef Rune

    Shael Rune
    Required Level: 29
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Weapons: +20% Increased Attack Speed
    Armor: +20% Faster Hit Recovery
    Shields: +20% Faster Block Rate

    Ko Rune
    Required Level: 39
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Weapons: +10 to Dexterity
    Armor: +10 to Dexterity
    Shields: +10 to Dexterity

    Nef Rune
    Required Level: 13
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Weapons: Knockback
    Armor: +30 Defense vs. Missile
    Shields: +30 Defense vs. Missile

    Arrows
    Fingerprint: 0x701d09c3
    Item Level: 89
    Version: Expansion 1.10+

    Grim Wand of Lower Resistance
    Grim Wand
    One Hand Damage: 5 - 11
    Durability: 15 of 15
    Required Level: 36
    Fingerprint: 0x4b365406
    Item Level: 82
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +1 to Decrepify (Necromancer Only)
    Level 2 Lower Resist (19/75 Charges)

    Charms:

    Lapis Large Charm of Frost
    Large Charm
    Required Level: 12
    Fingerprint: 0xbdb2a02d
    Item Level: 73
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Adds 1 - 2 Cold Damage Over 1 Secs (25 Frames)
    Cold Resist +10%

    Amber Large Charm
    Large Charm
    Required Level: 27
    Fingerprint: 0x2148e903
    Item Level: 82
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Lightning Resist +14%

    Large Charm of Sustenance
    Large Charm
    Required Level: 19
    Fingerprint: 0xe661e548
    Item Level: 66
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +18 to Life

    Ruby Large Charm of Sustenance
    Large Charm
    Required Level: 34
    Fingerprint: 0xa43a86cf
    Item Level: 82
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +21 to Life
    Fire Resist +13%

    Large Charm of Sustenance
    Large Charm
    Required Level: 19
    Fingerprint: 0xb5cbdf4d
    Item Level: 85
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +19 to Life

    Large Charm of Life
    Large Charm
    Required Level: 9
    Fingerprint: 0x5d5e2233
    Item Level: 45
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +12 to Life

    Stout Large Charm of Sustenance
    Large Charm
    Required Level: 34
    Fingerprint: 0x22cd2380
    Item Level: 65
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +3 Defense
    +21 to Life

    Ruby Grand Charm
    Grand Charm
    Required Level: 22
    Fingerprint: 0x265a6bd1
    Item Level: 82
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Fire Resist +29%

    Shimmering Grand Charm of Sustenance
    Grand Charm
    Required Level: 27
    Fingerprint: 0xa42bbd33
    Item Level: 84
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +23 to Life
    All Resistances +15

    Jade Small Charm of Sustenance
    Small Charm
    Required Level: 20
    Fingerprint: 0x27f3dcf2
    Item Level: 79
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +15 to Life
    Poison Resist +8%

    Serpent's Grand Charm
    Grand Charm
    Required Level: 29
    Fingerprint: 0x9cb4aef7
    Item Level: 45
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +44 to Mana

    Lapis Small Charm
    Small Charm
    Required Level: 10
    Fingerprint: 0x98f2d283
    Item Level: 11
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Cold Resist +6%

    Stout Small Charm of Sustenance
    Small Charm
    Required Level: 17
    Fingerprint: 0xd5fd3223
    Item Level: 82
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +8 Defense
    +14 to Life

    Mercenary:

    Name: Ilzan
    Race: Desert Mercenary
    Type: Off-Nightmare
    Experience: 71985398
    Level: 84
    Dead?: false

    Naked/Gear
    Strength: 184/189
    Dexterity: 148/153
    HP: 1727/1727
    Defense: 1274/2743
    AR: 1898/373906

    Fire: 163/123/63
    Cold: 193/153/93
    Lightning: 163/123/63
    Poison: 213/173/113

    Undead Crown
    Crown
    Defense: 107
    Durability: 30 of 50
    Required Level: 29
    Required Strength: 55
    Fingerprint: 0xe50cfc7a
    Item Level: 82
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +50% Damage to Undead
    +92 to Attack Rating against Undead
    5% Life stolen per hit
    +3 to Skeleton Mastery (Necromancer Only)
    +47% Enhanced Defense
    +40 Defense
    Poison Resist +50%
    Half Freeze Duration


    Duress
    Dusk Shroud
    ShaelUmThul
    Defense: 1362
    Durability: 11 of 20
    Required Level: 49
    Required Strength: 77
    Fingerprint: 0x118a545
    Item Level: 73
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    +40% Faster Hit Recovery
    11% Enhanced Damage
    Adds 37 - 133 Cold Damage Over 2 Secs (50 Frames)
    15% Chance of Crushing Blow
    33% Chance of Open Wounds
    +193% Enhanced Defense
    -20% Slower Stamina Drain
    Cold Resist +30%
    All Resistances +15
    3 Sockets (3 used)
    Socketed: Shael Rune
    Socketed: Um Rune
    Socketed: Thul Rune

    Shael Rune
    Required Level: 29
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Weapons: +20% Increased Attack Speed
    Armor: +20% Faster Hit Recovery
    Shields: +20% Faster Block Rate

    Um Rune
    Required Level: 47
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Weapons: 25% Chance of Open Wounds
    Armor: Cold Resist +15%
    Lightning Resist +15%
    Fire Resist +15%
    Poison Resist +15%
    Shields: Cold Resist +22%
    Lightning Resist +22%
    Fire Resist +22%
    Poison Resist +22%

    Thul Rune
    Required Level: 23
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Weapons: Adds 3 - 14 Cold Damage Over 3 Secs (75 Frames)
    Armor: Cold Resist +30%
    Shields: Cold Resist +35%


    Insight
    Thresher
    RalTirTalSol
    Two Hand Damage: 46 - 435
    Durability: 55 of 65
    Required Level: 53
    Required Strength: 152
    Required Dexterity: 118
    Fingerprint: 0x4b44b8f9
    Item Level: 80
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Level 13 Meditation Aura When Equipped
    +35% Faster Cast Rate
    209% Enhanced Damage
    +9 to Minimum Damage
    196% Bonus to Attack Rating
    Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
    Adds 75 Poison Damage Over 5 Secs (125 Frames)
    +2 to Critical Strike
    All Stats +5
    +2 to Mana after each Kill
    23% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
    4 Sockets (4 used)
    Socketed: Ral Rune
    Socketed: Tir Rune
    Socketed: Tal Rune
    Socketed: Sol Rune

    Ral Rune
    Required Level: 19
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Weapons: Adds 5 - 30 Fire Damage
    Armor: Fire Resist +30%
    Shields: Fire Resist +35%

    Tir Rune
    Required Level: 13
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Weapons: +2 to Mana after each Kill
    Armor: +2 to Mana after each Kill
    Shields: +2 to Mana after each Kill

    Tal Rune
    Required Level: 17
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Weapons: Adds 75 Poison Damage Over 5 Secs (125 Frames)
    Armor: Poison Resist +30%
    Shields: Poison Resist +35%

    Sol Rune
    Required Level: 27
    Version: Expansion 1.10+
    Weapons: +9 to Minimum Damage
    Armor: Damage Reduced by 7
    Shields: Damage Reduced by 7

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    It was really hard to beat ancients, it took me almost half an hour and i almost ran out of mana pots.
    Obviously Maggot lair was also a pain in the ass, i remember a couple NDE there and also in plains of despair due to crazy bosspacks.

    My best finds on this char (also in the IFT):

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    And finally:

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    Have a nice day!
     
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  2. Dezrok

    Dezrok Diabloii.Net Member

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    Congratulations!
    Nice guardian and some nice finds.
    Welcome to the HC world!
     
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    mir Diabloii.Net Member

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    Congratulations!

    This is one build that I never tried before, so hard not to max valk on an amazon.....:(
     
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    drmalawi Diabloii.Net Member

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    Nice! This was my first Amazon guardian build aswell :) What build is up next?
     
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    Kitteh Diabloii.Net Site Pal

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    The boots are nice! :D

    Also, max valk is a no brainer in HC, in my opinion.
     
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    drmalawi Diabloii.Net Member

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    Did you see my video where I said "Valkyrie is for n00bs"? :D
     
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    RIP Diabloii.Net Member

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    HC is the only way to go :)...i've actually played only my first character through NM difficulty as softcore char, then turned to HC and never looked back...15 Years ago :p

    Big congratulations, the first one is always special, and may Your next journeys are at least as satisfactory as this one has been..GL ;)
     
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    Kitteh Diabloii.Net Site Pal

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    I did, but I didn't want to make fun of you :rolleyes:
     
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    Caralis Diabloii.Net Member

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    Thank you all for the replies guys!

    @drmalawi I have 5 chars waiting lol. Probably a freeze zealot sitting on act 1 NM or a Meteorb to acumulate a bit of gear for twinked chars.
    @Kitteh I dont know if you can max valk in this build, you lose a lot of power in FA. That's why i went for 1 point in decoy. I rarely used though, only for ancients (although it wasn't needed) and for Baal (decrepify). For your guardian is other story, you can afford that kind of commitment.
    @RIP I enjoy softcore for efficiency play, but you can also do it on HC! Double the FUN!
     
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    Kitteh Diabloii.Net Site Pal

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    This is very true, you would have to adapt a bit. It doesn't sound like it was a big problem for you though.
     
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    Congratulations, the first is the hardest. Then after you get a few under your belt, you have to worry about being overconfident. Good luck in HC!
     
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    Nice work Caralis, the first is the sweetest. Any plans for her? I know NF recommended a FishyZon as a dedicated WSK runner. Or Pits as well I reckon. Slow missile/Decoys for Archers and the rest of the monsters would be straight forward. Anyway GL for future HC chars.
     
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    Nice :). Congrats.

    The Baal drop wasn't Stormlash, was it?
     
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    Caralis Diabloii.Net Member

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    @crawlingdeadman We will see in my next playthrough how i manage the game going a bit faster. I will try to speedrun a bit more.

    @DaveW For now she is farming P1 Pindle/Eldritch for some gear, i want to get razortail, titan's and ravenfrost. Once i get them i will try both. I need some insight on running WSK though. The first thing that comes to mind is Tgods.
    It will be cool to make an enigmaless barb for WSK. Probably my first twinked HC char. Already found arreat's, 2 oath bases and 2 Echoing spears on this playthrough.

    @T72on1 nope :( Horizon's Tornado. At least it is a rare item.
     
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    Congrats and respect on your 1st Guardian. I run a Fishyzon in the AT with base vita version in SC . It is quite good. Use a upped -35% Wizendraw which kills quite kills quite well and has old school style.
     
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    Well done! That first guardian is indeed a sweet one. I too like to have untwinked players going but also some that I can use the cool items which drop.

    I think it's funny (and typical) that you managed to find some really sweet items, but others were things you could shop for. On untwinked characters that is often the case.

    The decision to go without valkyrie can be a tough/controversial one, but it is true to the "Fishyzon" build; I believe I read Nightfish saying he opts out of any kind of summonable tank (i.e. no bear on a druid, no shadow on assassin - obvious exception of something like the "Fishymancer"). I don't recall their logic for that, and I would disagree, but Nightfish did guardian 50+ characters... probably why I would choose the safety of the tank, because I only have ~3 :rolleyes:

    edit: First line to read "Masterfully done, hero!"
     
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    Caralis Diabloii.Net Member

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    Again guys, thank for the replies, really appreciated.

    @TedDeeBoy For now is Pindle/Eldritch until i get better gear, mainly tgods, ravenfrost, razortail and titan's (some toys to try different setups)

    @JoeBruce I farmed quite a lot with this char to achive that gear, as i said to @crawlingdeadman i will try to go faster with every guardian, just to challenge myself. Like those boots, Spirit Monarch and +2 20s with good FR are way above the category of "Untwinked". And even with that items the game presented a tought challenge in hell.

    Back to the Valk discussion. I think its a nice complement, like for sure i will have a easier time in some parts of the playthrough. Ancients was a mess, i was 20 min trying to keep alive my merc so he can apply CB, i solved that problem wearing duress myself and applying CB via LF. Then i finished Madawc LI using Lower resist wand.

    I will try to play a bit more around valk on my next amazon. And i really enjoy having this theorycraft discussion about builds with other HC players (like this one brought by @Kitteh).

    BTW what do you guys think about slower missiles?
     
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    TedDeeBoy Diabloii.Net Member

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    Excellent work

    SM is very useful against archers, spike beasts, dangerous LE bosses and Madawc if you can cast it fast enough and have a long enough duration for it. 30 sec minimum for it to useful in hell in IMHO. if you play the WSK it will be useful. For AT runs I usually just shoot or blast them except for LI/CI. But you can put go Jab or 1pt MA and pink away with the bow

    This build I never went with a Valk in SC but for the first guardian it is a brave call.
     
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    Kitteh Diabloii.Net Site Pal

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    I typically use slow missiles for witches, archers and mages. I think that valk depends a lot on your build. Although, even if you don't max it, it is still a helpful tank. I recast mine a lot anyway.
     
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    Caralis - yeah I hesitated to use the term "untwinked" but went with it anyway. You have some pretty sweet gear there. I got the impression this character was all self-found, despite the farming runs.

    Slow missiles is a life saver, especially through A5 where you have so many ranged attackers. It's more useful on an amazon with no shield.

    You mentioned some NDEs in maggot lair - perhaps you were not casting the decoy ahead of you? That's how I utilize it, because running into an unknown area/room can be a quick trip to deeds. I do the same with the bear on my wind druid. Proper use of Decoy can render a valkyrie unnecessary. Although it is damn helpful for that ancients fight...

    I always thought it interesting how the decoy will change weapons when you do. Proper, but puzzling.
     
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