Grief Oriented Barb problem

firstwave

Diabloii.Net Member
Grief Oriented Barb problem

Ive decided to build a ww pvp barb and I got most of my equipments

36/370 Grief Berserker Axe
Stormshield
38/15 Verdungo
250/20 Raven
Angelic ammy + ring
War Traveller or Gore Riders
Gloves - Unsure
Archon Enigma

This is pretty standard PVP equipments, but I find a problem...Theres no mana leech! How will I leech my mana back after each ww!!

Please help

thx
 

mongol

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That's incorrect, mana leech does work in PVP.
Use mana pots or rely on DTM from enigma or angelics.
 
mongol said:
That's incorrect, mana leech does work in PVP.
Use mana pots or rely on DTM from enigma or angelics.
Note how I said doesnt really work... which means the leech is nerfed to a point where having it wouldnt make a difference.
 

mongol

Diabloii.Net Member
That's also incorrect, having it does make a quite noticable difference. And lets not even talk about striking minions in PVP (druid wolves, summons, mercs, shadows) where all leech works at normal PVM effect.
 

Asheron

Diabloii.Net Member
I'd suggest using Draculs or Steelrends as gloves and definetely Gores for boots.
Also if you can get your hands on one,I'd suggest a Fortitude armor. o_O

Mana leech isn't really an issue in PvP,you shouldn't bother with it but rather rely on dmg taken goes to mana.
 

combatman

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mongol said:
That's also incorrect, having it does make a quite noticable difference. And lets not even talk about striking minions in PVP (druid wolves, summons, mercs, shadows) where all leech works at normal PVM effect.

Ok, lets make some calculation about mana/life leech.
First ; it works in pvp,, second ;follow my calculation and c how much u leech

Lets say u have a ww barb that deals 6k dmg.After pvp penality thi is 1k pure dmg.Now, after dmg reduction of 50% this is 500 pure dmg.
Now lets say that u have 10% mana leech on your barb; well
10% *500 = 50 mana per hit

Now let asume the barb u are dueling have maxed block and 25k def u will have something like 10% chanse to hit him(depending on your lvl), so this is the reason why mana leech is totaly useles in pvp, u wont leech so much as u need to ww constantly.
 

firstwave

Diabloii.Net Member
hmmm Fortitude is a good armor, but Enigma is much more versatile as teleport is quite important against some duelers (eg. casters). Also Enigma gives such a big boost in str so I can free a lot of str, therefore, more hp.

Is it possible to craft a good barb glove? +str, ml, knockback, res ?

If so, that would be prety good hmm??

Btw: I only need mana leech so I dont have to chug blue pots every WW.

Thx for da help guys
 

mongol

Diabloii.Net Member
combatman said:
Now let asume the barb u are dueling have maxed block and 25k def u will have something like 10% chanse to hit him(depending on your lvl), so this is the reason why mana leech is totaly useles in pvp, u wont leech so much as u need to ww constantly.
Even in this worst case scenario, you've just shown that mana leech is not "totaly useles" (sic.) Ever dueled anything besides another barb? Go read my post again please, note the mention of summons.
 

combatman

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Man this is a realistic scenario 10% to hit,, my barb got something around 8% being hit by a same tipe/buld/lvl(no angelics)barb. 10% means every 10th swing will hit,, this is 10 * 34 mana cost=340 - 34 = 306 mana lost, so teoretically u will emtpy your mana after hitting the opponent only 2wice if u haev a mana pool around 600(and that is quite a lot for a barb)

I just try to shown that ml is "almost" inrelevant in pvp and u should go after dmg taken goes to mana, oh and bdway,..

I said 6 kilo dmg, not every barb have so much dmg,,

and bdway about ather minions ,, i dont think ther is a match dueling a fury druid or a ww asa ,with a good equpped barb u shouldnt have any problems killing them.
 
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