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'Grief' or 'Kingslayer' for Uber Smite

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  1. Trionth

    Trionth Diabloii.Net Member

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    'Grief' or 'Kingslayer' for Uber Smite

    I'm building a smiter to use for Uber Tristram. My gear is:

    Guiallames Face (Um)
    Chains of Honor
    Dracul's Grasp
    Gore Riders
    Verdungos Belt
    2x Ravenfrost
    Up'd Herald of Zakarum (Pdiamond)
    'Spirit' on switch
    Lifetap wand on Switch

    'Trechery' Fade Prebuff, and CtA before I go in.

    I can't decide what runeword to use for my weapon.

    I have both of these in Phase Blades.

    Grief
    35% Chance To Cast Level 15 Venom On Striking
    +35% Increased Attack Speed
    Damage +370 (how does this work, the Phase blade still shows its original damage)
    Ignore Target's Defense
    -25% Target Defense
    150% Damage To Demons
    Adds 26 Fire Damage
    -23% To Enemy Poison Resistance
    20% Deadly Strike
    Prevent Monster Heal
    +2 To Mana After Each Kill
    +12 Life After Each Kill

    Kingslayer
    +30% Increased Attack Speed
    +250% Enhanced Damage
    -25% Target Defense
    20% Bonus To Attack Rating
    33% Chance of Crushing Blow
    50% Chance of Open Wounds
    +1 To Vengeance
    Prevent Monster Heal
    +10 To Strength
    40% Extra Gold From Monsters

    I was told 'Grief' would be better, so I figured I would ask people who have experience. Thanks!
     
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    Trionth Diabloii.Net Member

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    Re: 'Grief' or 'Kingslayer' for Uber Smite

    Forgot to say where I'm putting the skill points.

    20 Defiance
    20 Fanatasim
    20 Smite
    20 Holy Shield
    XX Zeal -- all extra after those are maxed, so 8+ at level 80 [96 skill points]
    1 Meditation, Salvation, Might, Blessed Aim, Concentration, Holy Bolt, Charge, Blessed Hammer
     
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    Re: 'Grief' or 'Kingslayer' for Uber Smite

    My experience is that Grief is superior. You have 50% Crushing Blow and 35% Open Wounds with your existing gear. I don't think the extra CB and OW you get from Kingslayer will offset the raw damage using grief will provide.
     
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    Re: 'Grief' or 'Kingslayer' for Uber Smite

    How does the damage show? Just it just tack on when I hit? It doesn't show on the actual sword.
     
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    Re: 'Grief' or 'Kingslayer' for Uber Smite

    I doesn't show on the character screen - it does get enhanced by the bonus from fanaticism and smite ie. (370*(373% Fanat. + 300% Smite). Check the smite calculator here: http://www.theamazonbasin.com/d2/d2_tools_and_links.php
    With you gear and minimum strength and no +skills you average 4342 damage per hit with Grief, 956 with Kingslayer. Kingslayer offers no bonus other than increased CB and OW. Kingslayer might sliver the ubers health bar a little faster but grief will keep dishing out 4300 damage everytime vs 956 for Kingslayer. That's the power of the +damage mod.
     
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    Re: 'Grief' or 'Kingslayer' for Uber Smite

    Black runework is usually a great option too but you could make kingslayer if you wish.
     
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    Re: 'Grief' or 'Kingslayer' for Uber Smite

    with his existing gears, cb will get off quite alot. Therefore it's better to use Grief for its raw damage to finish the remaining of ubers' health instead (Due to the effect of cb will get slower once the ubers have their health reduced to a low amount)
     

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