Greetings all!

Llathias said:
welcome to the SPF :)

stop smoking :mad:

edit:
@whomhead: it just reminded me of Murphy's law of buttering:
"the chances of the bread falling with the buttered side down is proportional with the value of the carpet"

and the corollary to it:
"you never know which side of the bread to butter beforehand"
Actually, some very bored scientists with what seemed like too much free time, worked out that the average height of a kitchen table meant that when the bread was falling, it only had time to flip once, onto the butter side down. The solution: have really low tables, or have a table twice as high as normal, and hope it flips back onto the non buttered side.
 

water_moon

Diabloii.Net Member
farting bob said:
Actually, some very bored scientists with what seemed like too much free time, worked out that the average height of a kitchen table meant that when the bread was falling, it only had time to flip once, onto the butter side down. The solution: have really low tables, or have a table twice as high as normal, and hope it flips back onto the non buttered side.
Then too the buttered side is heaver, so the bread will eventually stablize buttered side down, it will want to flip even if it's knocked straight off the table and has no torque momentum.
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I see you escaped the shin kicking, XGrizzly, so it is now you duty to join/host a tourney. We even have a lovely stickie for out tourneys, so pick yours today :)
 
water_moon said:
Then too the buttered side is heaver, so the bread will eventually stablize buttered side down, it will want to flip even if it's knocked straight off the table and has no torque momentum.
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Thats true if you were buttering it ontop of a tall building, but generally, in normal toast buttering techniqs, the buttering is done inside, with a ceiling above you stopping you from getting that high.
water_moon said:
I see you escaped the shin kicking, XGrizzly
Oh yea
*puts on uber boots of matrix style slo-mo*
Prepare to die, Mr Anderson, i mean, shins
*does some cool kick in bullet-time, leaving grizzly crippled, in pain and confused*
 

Llathias

Banned
water_moon said:
Then too the buttered side is heaver, so the bread will eventually stablize buttered side down, it will want to flip even if it's knocked straight off the table and has no torque momentum.
why would it do so? the heavier part does not fall faster, for one, and then if you butter it perfectly smooth and symmetrical, it cannot rotate even if the heavy side is pulled by some strange force (since it's gonna be perfectly symmetrical and the torque would balance).

or, are you assuming air friction & buoyancy? well, then as fb said, it's too short a distance to consider...
 

shermo

Diabloii.Net Member
Welcome. And as many others have said "boo, smoking". One day you'll wake up and wish you'd never started and then spend the rest of your life trying to give up.

Llathias said:
why would it do so? the heavier part does not fall faster, for one, and then if you butter it perfectly smooth and symmetrical, it cannot rotate even if the heavy side is pulled by some strange force (since it's gonna be perfectly symmetrical and the torque would balance).

or, are you assuming air friction & buoyancy? well, then as fb said, it's too short a distance to consider...
Actually, even if the toast was buttered perfectly evenly and dropped so it was perfectly flat, it'd be going fast enough to disrupt the laminar flow and turbulance would cause it to become unstable.
 

water_moon

Diabloii.Net Member
Llathias said:
why would it do so? the heavier part does not fall faster, for one, and then if you butter it perfectly smooth and symmetrical, it cannot rotate even if the heavy side is pulled by some strange force (since it's gonna be perfectly symmetrical and the torque would balance).
Something like a piece of bread would reach terminal velocity if falling from something taller than normal kitchen table (a solution FB suggested) The turbulence will cause it to turn some and I was saying that the weight of the butter will affect how it bounces/lands (ie. butter side down) by altering the center of gravity.
Goltar has suggested that we charter a plane or rent a hang glider (well, he wants to fire a rocket but that's unreasonable) and drop 10 pieces of toast from 500 ft so that we can most accurately see how said pieces of buttered bread drop.

He'd also like to welcome XtasyGrizzly to the forums and would do so himself but he's busy playing his septa necro.
 
Yay, a discussion about physics... and toast! anyway, i like water_moon's idea of renting a private jet to drop toast and see if they all land butter side down. Just get a big patch of expensive carpet, drop it over that to see if the expensive carpet attracts the butter side as Llathias said.
 
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