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Greedy VanHelsing - The Fun New Paladin build (critique!)

Discussion in 'Paladin' started by sanddemon, Apr 6, 2004.

  1. sanddemon

    sanddemon IncGamers Member

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    Greedy VanHelsing - The Fun New Paladin build (critique!)

    Alright, after seeing a few VanHelsing's around the forums/game and finding a lack of fun options involving undead/demon killing I decided to explore it to the fullest and what I found was pretty damn fun.

    Introducing the Greedy Vanhelsing, his required skills are pretty basic:

    20 Charge
    20 Sanctuary
    20 Might

    Now looking at this you're going to grumble...a charger?!? Usually the problem with a charge is monsters getting too close or taking more than one hit to kill...well let me tell you, with this setup I can one hit kill a named Council Member (Damn FlameFinger, it's payback time!) in nightmare no problem.

    Here's the basic idea: Sanctuary gives massive melee damage against undeads so with charge, it's a one-hit glory. Sanctuary also knocks them back making it easier to manuever. Now against non-undead, you put on might and repeat. Might because it is a synergy with charge and no one uses it so it's another aura to stack in groups. Add in a frostie Act2 Nm Defensive merc to slow them down and keep um far apart, and we have a winner.

    Now the gear, this is important. I'll show my setup and various changes you can allow if you want to focus on the greedy aspect or not.

    ===You===
    Helm: Crown of Thieves (100% goldfind)
    Armor: Wealth Armor (300% goldfind)
    Belt: Goldwrap (80% goldfind)
    Rings: 2 Dwarfstar (100% goldfind)
    Gloves: Lay of Hands (350% demon)
    Boots: Any nice rares with mf/goldfind (100% goldfind)
    Weapon: Djinn Slayer with 2 Lems (150% demons and 150% goldfind)
    Shield: 6-Lem shield (300% goldfind)
    Amulet: Seraph Hymn (2 skills, 2 aura, 50% demon/undead)
    ===Merc===
    Weapon: Tomb Reaver with 3 Lem (225% goldfind, 230% undead)
    Helm: Crown of Thieves (100% goldfind)
    Armor: Wealth Armor (300% goldfind)

    Total goldfind: 1755 without charms
    Total Demon hate: 780% (with level 20 Might)
    Total Undead hate: 770% (with level 20 Sanctuary)

    That's not even including Charge....

    Right now I'm doing fine in nightmare, might have to step up the hate in Hell. I'm thinking of going Chains of Honor but I don't have all the uber runes - I'm missing a perfect Djinn Slayer (only 1 socket now), Tomb Reaver (Bone hew atm), Crown of thieves (using Tarnhelms now), Seraph Hymn (using goldfind ammie), and the shield (need more Lem runes). I'm taking Donations, /msg *sanddemon on USWest Ladder.

    Anyone got any suggestions or things to add?
    1) Stats - just making changes as I go...
    2) Other skills - debating between holyshield to survive vs vigor for charge synergy. What other stuff should I use?
    3) Other item choices?

    Tell me what you think and critique.
    SandDemon

    Note. Thanks to the guy who posted about Charge/Sanctuary somewhere below.
    P.s. Real Paladins use Sanctuary :)
    P.s.s. Damn Sanctuary for not working on crossbows...
     
  2. xpumafangx

    xpumafangx IncGamers Member

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    Plz dont go around from game to game going me want me want...... j/k
     
  3. prion

    prion IncGamers Member

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    what is the meaning of 'VanHelsing' ?
     
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    Ash Housewares IncGamers Member

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    its a literary reference to the undead slayer in "Dracula"

    theres plenty shoot-offs like the new VanHelsing movie with Hugh Jackman where he is killing plenty undead monster thingies and bad stuff
     
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    Ryshenron IncGamers Member

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    its a movie that is coming out in america..the commercials aer playin on what we call television right now >_>
     
  6. sanddemon

    sanddemon IncGamers Member

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    Let's try talking about the build :)
    I know...VanHelsing rocks...it's like porn for nerds. But let's talk D2
     
  7. Rascargil

    Rascargil IncGamers Member

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    i think he should carry a gun.

    ooops me bad me bad
     
  8. Shadoway

    Shadoway IncGamers Member

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    Interesting find ... :scratch:
    And why not Griz Caddy with 4 lems?
     
  9. sanddemon

    sanddemon IncGamers Member

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    What's Griz Caddy?
     
  10. Wuhan_Clan

    Wuhan_Clan IncGamers Member

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    Griz Caddy = set caduceus

    This would work much better since there can be up to 4 sockets and it also has +250% dmg vs undead. Griz caddy is also 1000x rarer then Djinn Slayer and 1000x more valuable. Consider the Djinn slayer as a poor man's replacement.
     
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    sanddemon IncGamers Member

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    I like the Djinn for the leech, demon%, damage and lightning absorb. That could work also, but I need the demon%....
     
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    sanddemon IncGamers Member

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    Although a Griz shield and Griz caddy might work...
     
  13. Ash Housewares

    Ash Housewares IncGamers Member

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    yea, you could lem the crap out of griz shield
     
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    sanddemon IncGamers Member

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    I guess a cool idea might be to use a full Griz set.

    I'd lose the wealth, lem shield, djinn and tarnhelm....hmmmm.
    How expensive is a griz set? Like what's the worth of each piece?
    Not exactly a rich man in game...

    SandDemon
     
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    Gravez IncGamers Member

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    Funny in the last week ive made a thread about an Undead killer build using Sanct, might and charge... as well as comented on the joys of haveing a Goldfind character... are you stalking me? :scratch:

    http://forums.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=164795
     
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    Vigor also gives ed to charge.
    if you go with a guild without holy sheild you can use base dex and put more points into vit. if you do go with max holy shield you can still keep your base dex low since you'll get dex off the COT, Wealth, Anni sc.

    some of your items are wrong.
    4 sockets is max in a shield so 200% greed
    socket a lem in the COT
    use eth wealth, CoT on merc for the added def
    max % greed you can find on boots/belt/amulet in 1.10 is 80%
    1.08 wars have 100% greed and 45%MF
    per lod items (Diablo2 classic per 1.07 rares) can have ~120% greed on boots/belts/amulets
    you can hold 40 @ 40% greed gc and 10 @ 10% gc sc. but you may want to drop 2 of them for the uniq charms.

    the max goldfind you can get in LOD is ~3700% (barb+merc)
    the max goldfind you can get in D2C is ~1000% (barb)

    any char can make for a good fun goldfind build but the barb is the best for 2 reasons. they can hold 2 6 lem weapons (450% greed each) and they also have the FI skill. that will give them over a 50% chance to get a 2nd full drop off each monster.

    btw are you using a might merc? if you do you may want to max conc that way you can stack his might + your conc and let him get the killing hit from time to time. since their greed/mf % only works if they get the last hit.

    -Tempus-
     
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    Halbreed7250 IncGamers Member

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    How the heck do you know this stuff . . .

    Again: How the heck do you know this stuff . . .
     
  18. Halbreed7250

    Halbreed7250 IncGamers Member

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    What's a set caduceus . . .

    Griswolds's Redemption
    Caduceus
    (Elite War Scepter)
    104-121 Damage
    70 Durability
    78 Str required
    56 Dex required
    2 Range
    -10 Weapon Speed
    Socketed (3)
    Clvl Req:
    Item Level: 44 +175% Enhanced Damage
    +40% Increased Attack Speed
    +250% Damage Against Undead
    -20% Item Requirements

    http://www.diabloii.net/items/item_sets/x_griswolds.shtml
     
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    So what's the average gold drop you see in nightmare? in hell?

    Biggest drop you've seen?

    Oh, and what the hell are you doing with all this gold you're finding?
     

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