I was thinking we could make a thread where you write your opinion and then write why you believe so, and finally write from which ground you've got to this.
That way it's easy to see where we disagree, and where we agree, as it's most likely on the most basic grounds, such as what rights do we have, etc.
So I choose the subject to be abortion, but it could have been anything, but here's how I think it'd be good to set it up:
Ground ideas (assumptions): Everyone have the right to decide what they want to with their body on themselves, but not on others.
Example: You may kill yourself, but you may not kill others.
There comes a whole problem then, when thinking about abortion, because if you kill yourself, you'll kill the child, but you're allowed to kill yourself, just not the child, this type of dependency is what I want to debate.
Claim: Abortion, though not encouraged, as it's something very sad, should be allowed.
Arguments: As it's up to everyone what they want to with their body, and as something else is dependent on your body, it's up to you whether or not they shall survive.
Note this is a dependency which isn't similar to say, food dependency, as you're not dependent on a single person only, but more similar to when someone is in an respirator, payed through by the state. Here the state can't shut down the respirator, because the state exists for the people, but a person doesn't exists for its child, therefore where the state has no choice as it's our "slave", the person can always choose to do with ones own body as one wish. The dependency of others may never limit your rights to what you want to do with yourself.
So I think it'd be nice if we could construct the debate this way, as I guess it's most likely at the "Ground ideas" state where most of us disagree, which is also the state where everyones rights is entitled, etc. I don't expect anyone to change their mind or anything like that.
If this type of topic is a succes I was thinking about creating a larger series of topics with many other subjects for debates as I've made a lot of thoughts about a lot of stuff, which I'd like to share, hear inputs on, and hope we can come to, if not a common agreement, then at least be inspired by eachother and renew the way we view the world.
Edit: Oh and if anyone have better ideas for a system like this, then it's on topic as well, as it's a dual topic thread.
That way it's easy to see where we disagree, and where we agree, as it's most likely on the most basic grounds, such as what rights do we have, etc.
So I choose the subject to be abortion, but it could have been anything, but here's how I think it'd be good to set it up:
Ground ideas (assumptions): Everyone have the right to decide what they want to with their body on themselves, but not on others.
Example: You may kill yourself, but you may not kill others.
There comes a whole problem then, when thinking about abortion, because if you kill yourself, you'll kill the child, but you're allowed to kill yourself, just not the child, this type of dependency is what I want to debate.
Claim: Abortion, though not encouraged, as it's something very sad, should be allowed.
Arguments: As it's up to everyone what they want to with their body, and as something else is dependent on your body, it's up to you whether or not they shall survive.
Note this is a dependency which isn't similar to say, food dependency, as you're not dependent on a single person only, but more similar to when someone is in an respirator, payed through by the state. Here the state can't shut down the respirator, because the state exists for the people, but a person doesn't exists for its child, therefore where the state has no choice as it's our "slave", the person can always choose to do with ones own body as one wish. The dependency of others may never limit your rights to what you want to do with yourself.
So I think it'd be nice if we could construct the debate this way, as I guess it's most likely at the "Ground ideas" state where most of us disagree, which is also the state where everyones rights is entitled, etc. I don't expect anyone to change their mind or anything like that.
If this type of topic is a succes I was thinking about creating a larger series of topics with many other subjects for debates as I've made a lot of thoughts about a lot of stuff, which I'd like to share, hear inputs on, and hope we can come to, if not a common agreement, then at least be inspired by eachother and renew the way we view the world.
Edit: Oh and if anyone have better ideas for a system like this, then it's on topic as well, as it's a dual topic thread.
