Going over max IAS?

[BlizzBallerSorc]

I'm trying to reach the max IAS on a Vengeance Paladin, and I notice this calculator only goes up to 120%

http://diablo3.ingame.de/diablo-2/calculatoren/angriffsgeschwindigkeit/?lang=en

The gear I'm aiming for will actually put me 5% over, at 125%, which is no big deal unless there is some sort of rollover function that messes up the IAS. I haven't found anything via Googling/searching forums, but I've read about max damage rollover and things of this sort, so I figured I'd check here before I invested a lot of effort in hitting that break point only to screw up my attack speed.

 

[helvete]

Rollover only occurs with insanely high values, so no worries. When it says "further IAS useless" it just means that the last possible breakpoint has been reached, and more is overkill. Much like stacking resists, actually.

 

[BlizzBallerSorc]

Thanks, helvete! That's all I needed to know. As I'm researching further I find there are so many little caveats to this game that it's making me a bit paranoid!

 

[coju]

Thanks, helvete! That's all I needed to know. As I'm researching further I find there are so many little caveats to this game that it's making me a bit paranoid!

Don't let it make you paranoid. It's making me a bit weary of how deep this game goes

 

[BlizzBallerSorc]

Don't let it make you paranoid. It's making me a bit weary of how deep this game goes

But the paranoia and minutiae are half the fun!

 

[Espr]

Overbuffing IAS can be useful if overcoming things like holy freeze / decrepify is an issue for what you're doing (though most don't often bother), but 5% extra is unlikely to matter much.

 

[BobCox2]

Sorry Bear-Sin attacked me.
Down boy.
OK - All I can think of is searching/shopping claws for the 2 FPA, or frames per attack that was rumored based on the animation for a while.

Grrrr

I know others of you that remember it.


3 FPA is a fast as it gets I guess.
Strafe and a few other attacks can hit max FPA as well.

Other than that it's useless except some spells.
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Hi helvete!

 

[Espr]

I thought 2 frame strafe was a client side bug? And it was only 3 frame server side despite the animation playing differently.

 

[Zenigma]

Strafe doesn't even hit 2 fpa, that's only a graphical glitch that doesn't reflect what actually happens in game. Strafe maxes out at 3 fpa, bear sins get 3 fpa, wolfbarb's feral rage gets 3 fpa, some druid were-attacks get 4 fpa, zealots get 4 fpa, double swing and frenzy get 5 fpa, double throw gets 3.5 fpa. Those are at their final breakpoints that you can reach without hacking, so you'd have to gear your character right to hit those.
Oh, and Dragon talon can hit 3 fpa, and dragon claws/fists of fire/claws of thunder/claws of ice can hit 5. I'm not sure about jab and fend, but I don't think they'll get much faster, if at all, than most of the above.
And on a side note: whirlwind effectively get 12.5 attacks per second (= 2 fpa) with enough ias and dual-wield, but realistically, it's just both weapons getting an attack every four frames, meaning that you don't see 12.5 aps, rather 6.25.

 

[NoisemakerArrow]

Yup, there's no such thing as 2 FPA.

 

[krischan]

It's still worth minimizing the time between two strafe rounds, however.

 

[helvete]

whirlwind effectively get 12.5 attacks per second (= 2 fpa) with enough ias and dual-wield, but realistically, it's just both weapons getting an attack every four frames, meaning that you don't see 12.5 aps, rather 6.25.

Does this mean that CB is half as effective against single targets when using WW, or can it be applied twice in the same frame?

 

[Zenigma]

Does this mean that CB is half as effective against single targets when using WW, or can it be applied twice in the same frame?

That's a good question, and, unfortunately, I can't even supply anecdotal evidence. I haven't played a ww barb in so long. I have one going now, but he doesn't have any cb, and he is using a two-handed axe. That being said, I hope someone else can bring the bacon home on this one. If I were to guess, I would think that cb, ow, and ds can be applied by each weapon during the hit. Though to reiterate, I'm not sure.

 

[NoisemakerArrow]

They get individual checks, so why not?

 

[krischan]

Does this mean that CB is half as effective against single targets when using WW, or can it be applied twice in the same frame?

I don't think that CB will suffer from that, but if it does, it makes even more sense to have CB on just one weapon or to use a two-handed one instead.