Godslayer Bowazon (need comments)

[bladesyz]

Godslayer Bowazon (need comments)

I'm planning a bowazon build designed to kill the uber-bosses. She won't be running uber-tristram alone, so no worries about crowd control and tanking. I just want a build that can take the bosses down fast and reliably.

For this purpose, I'm looking at Guided Arrows with Crushing Blow.

Right now, my idea goes like this:

- Strafe 20
- Valkyrie 20
- Guided Arrows 20
- P&M skills: 1 each (9)

Gears: (core)
- Guillaume
- Duress
- Gorerider
- Highlord

This gives me:
- 65% CB
- 60% DS
- 43% OW

Would this idea be viable? (Does CB work with GA anyway? I sure hope it does...)

Help me finish this build! What other gears should I use? What bow should I go for? Windforce? Buriza? A runeword? (keep in mind that this is non-ladder). What about gloves? Boots? Belts?

Thanks!

 

[Leohappy]

I am pretty sure this build would work (but not solo). Bowzons tend to be quite fragile so you'll have to invest a lot more into vitality and work on resistance stacking. You'll also need a bunch 20 life scs and good BO/spirit.

That said, you'll mostly rely on CB to do the damage so I'd go with a fast bow here. WF is an option, but slow. 2x shael WWS sounds good since it's quite fast and you get 40 all res which will be quite valuable vs Meph's conv.

And more likely than not, GA will be the best option due to autohit. Strafe needs AR and is simply too dangerous to use in uber trist due to minions.

 

[bladesyz]

I am pretty sure this build would work (but not solo). Bowzons tend to be quite fragile so you'll have to invest a lot more into vitality and work on resistance stacking. You'll also need a bunch 20 life scs and good BO/spirit.

That said, you'll mostly rely on CB to do the damage so I'd go with a fast bow here. WF is an option, but slow. 2x shael WWS sounds good since it's quite fast and you get 40 all res which will be quite valuable vs Meph's conv.

And more likely than not, GA will be the best option due to autohit. Strafe needs AR and is simply too dangerous to use in uber trist due to minions.

Thanks for your comments!

This build isn't intended to do Tristram solo, indeed. It's intended to be partied with another char that can tank the ubers as well as do crowd control. (I'm thinking a summoner necro or a hammerdin, but that's another matter.)

I think I'll still need a lot of damage on the bows, since CB won't be able to actually kill them, and apparently the ubers have 16k regen per second! That's pretty scary...

WWS damage is a bit low, I think, since I can't up it (being in non-ladder). WF will be hard to come by though... The best one I have right now is a 158% Buriza (crappy, i know...)

 

[Wmeredith]

No offense, b/c I'm a long time zon-player, but I don't think anyone could make a dent in the ubers with any bow. That's just my opinion. CB is also nerfed pretty hard with ranged attacks. My zealot does about 4k avg damage and hitting 7 times per sec he was doing little dmg do to the regen you are rightly afraid of. The auto hit is tempting. I'm skeptical, but would like to hear how it turns out. Just make sure you have Prevent Monster Heal form somewhere.

 

[bladesyz]

No offense, b/c I'm a long time zon-player, but I don't think anyone could make a dent in the ubers with any bow. That's just my opinion. CB is also nerfed pretty hard with ranged attacks. My zealot does about 4k avg damage and hitting 7 times per sec he was doing little dmg do to the regen you are rightly afraid of. The auto hit is tempting. I'm skeptical, but would like to hear how it turns out. Just make sure you have Prevent Monster Heal form somewhere.

1- Apparently, PMH doesn't work on those ubers. That's why the regens are so scary...

2- Ranged CB on Bosses is 1/16. That still means some 40k dmg on a full bar.

HOWEVER... I have no idea how much dmg dedicated Bowazons can do with GA. Can someone enlighten me?

 

[chipmc]

HOWEVER... I have no idea how much dmg dedicated Bowazons can do with GA. Can someone enlighten me?

I was in a public Baal run the other day with my all dex WF strafer. With all of the auras that were active in there (might, concentration, fanatasism) and a level 23 Enchant from my Demon Limb, my lvl 4 GA was hitting 11k max damage.

 

[newerest]

If you have good tanks, a faithzon using ga would be fast + damaging.

 

[oscarmk1]

1- Apparently, PMH doesn't work on those ubers. That's why the regens are so scary...

2- Ranged CB on Bosses is 1/16. That still means some 40k dmg on a full bar.

HOWEVER... I have no idea how much dmg dedicated Bowazons can do with GA. Can someone enlighten me?

ya when i fought lilith i had natures peace and was hitting with melee attack, and no effect she still regenered a lot.

 

[nickedoff]

You could give up the OW on gores for ten more CB with gobline toes.
Just a thought.

 

[slap]

hi.

save your 20 stat points for valk, a bowamazon does'nt need one, put then into something else.

shot speed is the key to a good bowamazon.

you can have all the uber gear in the game and not kill monsters, learn from your builds, see where you feel she was lacking, and the next build fix it.

as to you saying that the buriza is not very good, well, with my last amazon i used that crossbow(had about the same ed), she destroyed all the prime evils, all immunes ... infact anything that moved was dead, and that was without any decrep ... etc.

have fun with your builds ... but .. remember, it is all down to the game player and not uber gear.

 

[bladesyz]

hi.

save your 20 stat points for valk, a bowamazon does'nt need one, put then into something else.

???

How can a bowazon possibly survive without a tank?

 

[slap]

???

How can a bowazon possibly survive without a tank?

hi.

i have never had any need for a valk, even in hardcore hell worldstone.

amazons are a great build to play, they are more fun and challenging than any other charactor build.

learn from your mistakes with your builds.

learn from your mistakes when fighting a certain type of monster, find there weakness and exploit it.

i can honestly say, i don't know any area in the game that you will ever need a valk for, to me, 20points in valk plus the other points to get you there, are better spent elsewhere on your build.

until you try to make your own amazon builds (and not use somebody else's), because no two players play the same, then you will be like a lot of players and think that a amazon cannot be without a valk.

 

[Omikron8]

*Enter uber tristram*

Merc dies instantly
Valk dies instantly
Monsters and multiple elemental attacks target bowazon
Bowazon stuck in strafe lock
No leeching due to strafe lock
Dead zon

A pvm bowazon is only as good as her tanks, that is why she is good in an uber tristram party but very pathetic at trying to solo it. Guided Arrow or multishot with crushing blow won't do it either.

 

[bladesyz]

*Enter uber tristram*

Merc dies instantly
Valk dies instantly
Monsters and multiple elemental attacks target bowazon
Bowazon stuck in strafe lock
No leeching due to strafe lock
Dead zon

A pvm bowazon is only as good as her tanks, that is why she is good in an uber tristram party but very pathetic at trying to solo it. Guided Arrow or multishot with crushing blow won't do it either.

Read my first post plz. This build isn't intended to solo uber trist. It's intended to KILL the ubers while another character tanks and does crowd control.

 

[Omikron8]

Read my first post plz. This build isn't intended to solo uber trist. It's intended to KILL the ubers while another character tanks and does crowd control.

Aye, well that seems reasonable

All a tristram party zon needs is multi + knockback

 

[sir goatscelot]

Ow, and Cb are as said nerfed on ranged attacks. Something with slow, knockback (clegs ), deadly strike, chance to cast amp etc etc, are all good. There are alot of phys immunes down there so leech may be a problem.

It can be done for sure in Party so have fun.

 

[bladesyz]

Ow, and Cb are as said nerfed on ranged attacks. Something with slow, knockback (clegs ), deadly strike, chance to cast amp etc etc, are all good. There are alot of phys immunes down there so leech may be a problem.

It can be done for sure in Party so have fun.

OW has about 1/2 chance to trigger on ranged, and CB deals 1/2 dmg, but that 1/2 dmg is still some 30k dmg! Plus, keeping mind that with GA, you can shoot fast and hit often without risk.

Knockbacks don't work against bosses, though slow is an interesting idea. If the zon pairs with a necro summoner, slow/amp dmg can be taken care of by the necro.

OW might not be worth it if it can't prevent regen though. DS might be more useful...

 

[Omikron8]

OW and poison can stop the uber regen, not PMH

 

[bladesyz]

OW and poison can stop the uber regen, not PMH

Apparently, OW only subtract from regen, which, at 222/sec at lvl 80, won't even make a dent on the 15k regen of the ubers.

On the other hand, it seems that Poison *does* prevent regen, though that might seem a bit surprising. Can anyone further confirm this?

If that's true, then a Summon necro with poison skellies would be invaluable, as the poison duration on those guys are CRAZY.