Godly PVP barb?
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No, Stormlash is not that good.
No. Last Wish has no IAS, so it's way too slow to be used. If you want to dual-wield, Grief + Beast gives you the best damage output.
Whirlwind. Besides Whirlwind, the two PvP-capable builds are Concentrate Barbarians and Berserk Barbarians, but they pale in comparision to Whirlwind barbarians.
What?
Grief always does more average damage than any EBotdZ, even if you compare 34/340 to 415%.
The next best combo after Grief + Beast would be EBotdZ + Beast, but the difference is about 20% in total damage IIRC.
mainaman
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it gives 20%cb and 25% ow which along with the str on it is the best mods on that weapon,
MantrA?
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Grief + beast it is 
~ thanks guys.
So should i use arreats/gores/fort//dungo/dracs?? what about rings ammy? i have a decent raven frost, should i use this and angelic or is there better options? assume im not on a budget.
Furthurmore, if i make a grief PB (i assume thats what everyone does?) what do i make the beast in? and then what mastery do i max?
~ thanks guys.So should i use arreats/gores/fort//dungo/dracs?? what about rings ammy? i have a decent raven frost, should i use this and angelic or is there better options? assume im not on a budget.
Furthurmore, if i make a grief PB (i assume thats what everyone does?) what do i make the beast in? and then what mastery do i max?
The most common gear is:Greaf + beast it is
So should i use arreats/gores/fort//dungo/dracs?? what about rings ammy? i have a decent raven frost, should i use this and angelic or is there better options? assume im not on a budget.
CoA 'BerBer'
Enigma
Arachnid's Mesh
Dracul's or Trang-Oul's gloves
2* Ravenfrosts
Highlord's
Triple resistance boots
Results in high PDR%, high resistances, decent damage, high AR, some FCR%.
You don't make a Grief in a PB, as a Beast can never be made in swords. Your only choice for dual wielding is Axe Mastery.
As for charms:
Torch
Annihilus
4* 5fhr/5all res scs
2*20life/17mana scs
31*3max/20ar/20life scs
That is the response to every "I'm not on a budget" claim. Those who really are not on a budget are people who don't ask questions.
mainaman
Diabloii.Net Member
you can use ar/life gcs or max/ar/life /// ar/life scs , they are not so tough to come by on ladder. the charms you use don't have to be perf stats either, just get them as high as possible. It took me 3-4 months to get all the charms for my bvc, so be patient.lol ok maybe my budget is smaller then that
this is ladder so no the charms will not be possible (sept torch and anni)
why is enigma better then fort? y cant i just run around?
redtan
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Because if you want to be godly, as stated in your title, so you need to be able to deal with every single kind of opponent out there. This means you need enigma.why is enigma better then fort? y cant i just run around?
You'd be very hard pressed to catch many people by just running around even with a good frw. Good bowazons, trappers, FoHers and any char with tele will be running circles around you while you won't even get close to them. Many of these have ranged attacks, so then can do this all day pegging u with their projectiles while you scamper around trying to get close to them.
Not saying that enigma is a 100% must, but if you want to be godly, then you pretty much need it. Otherwise you're just a barb that can only beat melee characters. And we all know that those make up less than half of the duelers out there. You can't be godly and be an automatic loss to 65% or more of duelers.
Using Max/ar/life GCs is foolish. The gain in damage is minimal and the gain in AR is a bit over half of what you would gain from a single ar/life GC, meaning you lose double the life compared to using Ar/life GCs.
If you beat a single caster without Enigma, you are dueling people way below average skill. Of course, Hammerdins and Windies can be exceptions.why is enigma better then fort? y cant i just run around?
A lot of public sorceress' teleport/cast rather predictable, and it just asks a bit of luck to ww just at the right time when they tele of. Ofcourse teleport is a Huge difference
if u expect to catch any caster without teleport ur dead wrong.
And yes enigma is 100% essential for a bvc or BvA type barb how do u expect to build a char that is dedicated to kill casters or to kill all not have teleport?
and @ struikje relying on luck for a bad tp or inexperienced caster is not something to bet ur build on...
Like mentioned the only time u swith to armour like forti is vs hammerdins + windies but even vs these i find in certain cases mobility certainly is needed.
And yes enigma is 100% essential for a bvc or BvA type barb how do u expect to build a char that is dedicated to kill casters or to kill all not have teleport?
and @ struikje relying on luck for a bad tp or inexperienced caster is not something to bet ur build on...
Like mentioned the only time u swith to armour like forti is vs hammerdins + windies but even vs these i find in certain cases mobility certainly is needed.
mainaman
Diabloii.Net Member
dude read carefully then comment...
i said life/ar gcs OR max/ar/life /// ar/life scs... exactly where in my post did i say max/ar/life gcs?
i hate when you are looking to pick a line to act like you know best...
Just because you suck in getting your message through due to laziness does not mean my reading skills suck. Actually, they don't.
Just a sidenote, but let's see. You used to only confirm me in some cases, but right after you started playing with mcm on d2pk you somehow got a huge ego boost. How come? Does playing with the BvC god somehow make you equal to him?
I don't act like I know best, I know I know best. For Christ's sake, I spent quite a freakingly long time making sure that I knew the perfect stats setup and the optimal skill setup. Even so, I'm still gonna go for 59 base dex simply because it allows using fcr rings, arreat and widowmaker. Which is surely as hell useful versus, for example, defensive trappers. I would find it very strange that you would disagree about me knowing what I speak of, considering that you were one of the people advocating that I should release a BvC guide. And, as an update to that, I'm currently re-training myself with my BvC with some new goals, such as lvl 95. Means that as soon as I'm finished re-training, I can start dueling seriously and start making basic drafts for the strategies for my guide.
Just because I don't score perfect triwhirls or have perfect ravens or a 400 GriefZ or any of the other fancy gear does not mean that my knowledge is somehow flawed. I know perfectly exactly what a 120% perfect BvC looks like, having made several on Open. And I know very well what it looks like when a good player plays a BvC, having seen duels by both mcm and mat.
But on a totally different note, 13 months of inactivity have totally diminished my skills to below average. My locking sucks, my triwhirls suck, my overall performance has dropped to less than half of what it was. And still I can go to pubs and have an over 50% victory rate. Sure shows how good the skill level in pubs is.
Oh, for any of you BvC players (maina, Sic, Sho...) Are any of you using any special gaming gear, such as a gaming mouse or a special keyboard? I've been wondering whether I should buy one of them Razer mouses or something of the like, considering that at the moment I'm using an old Microsoft IntelliMouse. One of these. Also, have any of you had any problems with all the dirt gathering at the foot covers of the mouse?
Uncle_Mike
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Well, they apparently do since he said to use either ar/life gcs or max/ar/life or ar/life scs...why not just admit that you did not read carefully?
Excuse me, but to me "ar/life gcs or max/ar/life /// ar/life scs" clearly means that the three lines separate GCs and SCs in this case. A much better way of putting it would've been something like "Ar/life GCs or (max)/Ar/Life SCs", do you not agree?
mainaman
Diabloii.Net Member
actually i'd put ar/life, max/ar/life gcs if i wanted to include the latter , but you must have brain farted again to catch the difference.
mcm didnt play more than 2 weeks on d2pk, that was 3 months ago..
he actually barely play at all.failed at being crative here .
and yes you have always been acting like you know best with your really stupid way of expressing yourself , you are just laughable nitpicking every comma in ppls posts so you can have something to write essays about...
i use laptop to play d2, my mouse is Logitech G7, the mouse choise is personal liking end preference, so just pick one that has best feeling to your hand. I like wireless because i hate when the cord gets stuck to something ,thus constricting the mouse movement.
i never had problems with dirt goin on my mouse since it has teflon pads , but simple isopropyl alchol (rubbing alchohol) would be enough to clean any dirt off.
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