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GMB vs Windforce vs MB

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  1. jtam

    jtam IncGamers Member

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    GMB vs Windforce vs MB

    Just wondering which combo do you guys think is the best.

    1. Faith GMB + Might Merc w/ Pride
    2. Faith MB + Might Merc w/ Pride
    3. WF + Faith Merc

    Which one should I choose, or do you guys have a better suggestion?
     
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    Re: GMB vs Windforce vs MB

    wf+faith
    Hit bp, do quite the damage while having a rogue that won't kill herself.
     
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    Re: GMB vs Windforce vs MB

    wf + faith merc. Being able to wear atma's scarab while maintaining max speed is domination.
     
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    Re: GMB vs Windforce vs MB

    thanks for the input.

    so wf + faith would be more damaging than faith + might merc w/ concentrate aura?
     
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    Re: GMB vs Windforce vs MB

    I recall reading somewhere that at higher level..the damage will be greater than faith gmb+might merc+pride....but i'm not 100% sure about it. I built both...but i definitely like faith merc and wf much more. The rogue doesn't die and I run chaos games with my glass cannon zon pretty fast. One thing to consider is that you will lack a good tank...but a strong valk will solve the problem.
     
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    Re: GMB vs Windforce vs MB

    the base damage of bow is too low, so increase the damage by maximum damage is better than ED%
     
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    Re: GMB vs Windforce vs MB

    Well, I was reading Rylix's guide, and it said that

    But then I read elsewhere that WF + Faith is better. Is it just a matter of preference?
     
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    Re: GMB vs Windforce vs MB

    Also, what about BOTD + Faith
     
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    Re: GMB vs Windforce vs MB

    lets do a roughly calculation. actually, i have never do it before
    lets suppose the bowazon is building like this,
    wearing Fort(300ed), 400 dex(400ed), wearing 30*3 max(90 max) scs, using multi-shot as main skill(0ed), lvl 90, same shooting speed.
    if go with gmb faith bow + might merc, then we have lvl 15 fana(288ed), lvl 18 might(210ed), bow damage(62-320). that is (62-410)*(100+1198ed) = 805-5321 = 3063 avg
    if go with wf + faith merc, then we have lvl 15 fana(144ed), bow damage(35-519). that is (35-609)*(100+844) = 330-5749 = 3039 avg
    ah~ it is almost same. maybe i lost something in calculation, pls point it out.
     
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    Re: GMB vs Windforce vs MB

    I get a 500 damage difference between the WF and faith GMB at level ** using those aura levels, the WF being the higher average damage.
     
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    Re: GMB vs Windforce vs MB

    With top of the line gear and 37* fine small charms of vita, faith with an act2 merc will do more dmg than a wf with faith merc!

    The biggest problem is that act2 mercs die all the time because of iron maiden.
     
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    Re: GMB vs Windforce vs MB

    Why would you use those charms if you are going for high damage??

    Then Wf+Faith wins.



     
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    Re: GMB vs Windforce vs MB

    Because those charms are my standard pvp charms.

    In my eys, faith + wf wins to.
    Im just saying that the other setup gives you a higher dmg output if thats what you are going for
     
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    Re: GMB vs Windforce vs MB

    They might be standard PvP charms, but they are the wrong charms if you want highest damage.
     
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    Re: GMB vs Windforce vs MB

    what about a brand + faith merc i just love how an ama fires cute little bonespears + you have some low fireeledmg + knockback + ignores targed defense imho superior to windforce - though more expensive
     
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    Re: GMB vs Windforce vs MB

    People still don't get it. Both combination are very good combination and each will cut through the game like a hot knife through butter.
    It comes down to what you like the best. Some people hate to lose breakpoints when merc lags behind, other hate to lose damage when merc gets killed by IM. And again others are keen on decrypt.

    P.S. botd isn't assumed to compete with the other bows, atleast not on these forums.
     
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    Re: GMB vs Windforce vs MB

    The more +max dmg you have from charms, the more will faith pull away from WF.

    So if you went for all max dmg in your charms, faith is even better!



     
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    Re: GMB vs Windforce vs MB

    My point was that 3max damage small charms aint the best ones if you want the highest damage. 14max gcs are. Then followed by 13max.

    And when you (all) say that Faith is better, have you tried both builds? Have you calculated the damage gained with 100%pierce you can have with Wf? Have you calculated the damage with Faith combined with 100%pierce, but with a lower frame, since you cant get both max speed and 100%pierce with Faith(except you have to sacrifice Fortitude)? Have you calculated the damage with Amplify Damage you get from Wf? Have you calculated the damage with Faith and Amplify Damage, but with a lower frame, since you cant get both max speed and AmpDam with Faith(except you have to sacrifice Cats/Highlords)? Have you calculated the damage you loose when your PrideMerc dies?



     
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    Re: GMB vs Windforce vs MB

    How will you factor in the fact that amp has to trigger?






    I'll tell you, you can't.
    Therefore, looking at numbers is useless.
     
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    Re: GMB vs Windforce vs MB

    Thats exactly my point.

    You cant say that Faith is better and thats that. Or the opposite that Windforce is better. (For PvP you can in most cases though)



     

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