Give me ONE reason to mf pindle If you said: "to get items," ERRR! wrong! try again... I have done 700 pindle runs with a javazon with 380 mf and I haven't gotten a single thing worth more than hel rune. Even at 30 seconds a run, thats 350 minutes, or almost 6 hours of pure mfing. Not to mention it's boring as hell. Just for comparison, I did one solo 8-player cow run and got more than I got in all 700 pindle runs (verdungos, +1 elemental/18 life gc, & lum). I understand about persistence and hard work and blah blah blah. 700 runs to me is a complete waste of my time. If anybody can give me a better estimate of how many runs it will take to get ANYTHING good, please feel free to. Otherwise, I think I'll just go mf norm pindle 700 times and get just as much as I did in 700 hell pindle runs. Forgive me for ranting but I'm fed up with this crap.