Getting beated up by all wwers

[Krisu]

Getting beated up by all wwers

Well i've seen another thread like this but there's already so much post so i didn't bother reading em all. I'd like some help , is there anyway (Than getting eth exile and smiting them to bits) to kill a wwer. My Charger / Zealer loses to all wwers my gear goes here :

He's meant to duel all classes :
Helm : 14 all res jeweled Shako
Armor : Enigma Mage Plate (Mostly meant to escape , like from bprison)
Weapon : Breath Of The Dying Berserker Axe
Shield : Herald of Zakarum ( Non upped )
Amulet : Highlord's Wrath
Ring1 : Raven Frost ( 'Cause of ar and cbf )
Ring2 : Carrion Wind (I don't know why, maybe i use it because the missile def)
Belt : Thunder Gods ( Trappers :grrr: )
Gloves : Soul Drainer
Boots : Gore Rider

So I think my AR and Defense are real problem , Defense only 7000 and attack rating only 5000 on zeal. (Charge is hopeless against them)
Okay i've thought of changing my belt to verdungo and carrion + high lord to angelic. But have you got any better ideas ? Or am i just doomed to lose to those wwers ? Because i can't afford anything like exile at the moment.

- Krisu

Edit: I just looked the Garbads thread seems something is really wrong , others def and ar seemed to be 15-30 k :lol:

 

[Killfrenzy]

you'll probably want some more DR. Try to get a decent verdungos if you wanna fight melee ppl.

If your having trouble with AR, why not go with angelic ring+ammy

make sure you dont have "run" on when your fighting anyone that users AR. running sets your def to 0. I tend to stand in 1 spot and shift zeal em. That way the second they come within the reach 3 of your zerker you're zealing em.

 

[Frostburns]

Like I found out, ww has a big advantage over zeal. You can win, but it will be very difficult. You can give yourself a better chance though, by improving your stats. I already know your ar and defense is about a third of what it should be. How's your other stats? Do you hit the 86% fast hit recovery breakpoint (or at least the 48?) How's your life? For a high level dueler I recommend at least 1500. Damage reduction? I don't see any. Another thing I notice is that you try to equip vs all classes at once. This is fine, if you fighting all classes at once. A better way is to have different set ups for different situations. For example you put on the dr/ar set up vs melee and the switch to your resist/absorb based on situation* set up for casters.

Now as for fixing these problems:
First off, you need to fix that abysmal ar rating. I assume you use fantacism aura already so that helps. Some other ways to fix it are:
Angelic ring and ammy combo: You can only use 1 ring because you need that cbf aura but it still helps more than carrion and what good is deadly strike if you can't hit?
max/ar charms: These can go up to 3 max 20 ar for small, and 10 max 75 ar for grand. You ideally want some with fhr or life as a 2nd mod. My 45 pally has almost an entire inventory of legit max/ar, max/ar/fhr, and max/ar/life charms. I know they are legit becuase I found them myself on the first ladder, and did not delete after the reset.

The defense is a slightly lower priority but still important. Your enigma has around 1k defense or so and that isn't gonna cut it. Seeing as you can shift zeal to break prison there's no use for the teleport. And you won't catch a good caster with it, as theyll tele faster than you. Most of the high level zealots I've seen use levi or eth steel carapace and theres no reason to tele since you have charge to move around. As for bone prison, I haven't seen a necro use that in months. Most of em slap on the enigma and tele spear.
And those gloves.... souldrainers aren't very helpful pvp. Leech is pretty useless, the - defense is so low so as to be ineffective, and the weaken curse doesn't make much of a difference. I'd recommend dracula's grasp (if life tap is allowed) or something like steelrends (ed%, str, cb) or bloodfist (ias, fhr, life) if it isnt.

Now that you're better prepared give it another try. I've had limited success with shift-zealing, but this only works if you're tougher to kill than they are because you will take a lot of hits in the process. I've also heard of people using charge/smite/zeal combos as soon as they stop wwing but this would require excellent timing and still might not work so it goes in the "untested" pile.


* I say based on situation as some duels such as leagues have restrictions on this. Also, it's not very fun to duel someone that can't hurt you.

 

[Tanatus]

7k on zealot is kinda low - aim for very least 20-22k deffense
5K AR also very low - use hasarus set bonus or angelic exploit to boost your AR. Also its good idea check you invetory and fill it up with something along line 10max/70+AR/20+ life GC for extreme AR boost you can stack few 120+AR GCs.
Change gloves for draculs and enrich you gear with OW/CB/DS items
Personally I'd swap shako for BerBerCoA and get heavy version of enigma (in sup sacred or sup archon with base deffense at very least 1250). Still this is not good enouth on my taste I'd go with rune word Duress in Sup Elite armor (archon/great haurbek) or Stone in Sup Archon
I'd also consider Alma Negra over HOZ for shield or if you are rich enouth get Exile it'll boost defense a lot
Unless you face trappers no reason to use t-gods - get verdungo (sp) or string of ears at very least

 

[mortic]

Well i've seen another thread like this but there's already so much post so i didn't bother reading em all. I'd like some help , is there anyway (Than getting eth exile and smiting them to bits) to kill a wwer. My Charger / Zealer loses to all wwers my gear goes here :

He's meant to duel all classes :
Helm : 14 all res jeweled Shako
Armor : Enigma Mage Plate (Mostly meant to escape , like from bprison)
Weapon : Breath Of The Dying Berserker Axe
Shield : Herald of Zakarum ( Non upped )
Amulet : Highlord's Wrath
Ring1 : Raven Frost ( 'Cause of ar and cbf )
Ring2 : Carrion Wind (I don't know why, maybe i use it because the missile def)
Belt : Thunder Gods ( Trappers :grrr: )
Gloves : Soul Drainer
Boots : Gore Rider

So I think my AR and Defense are real problem , Defense only 7000 and attack rating only 5000 on zeal. (Charge is hopeless against them)
Okay i've thought of changing my belt to verdungo and carrion + high lord to angelic. But have you got any better ideas ? Or am i just doomed to lose to those wwers ? Because i can't afford anything like exile at the moment.

- Krisu

Edit: I just looked the Garbads thread seems something is really wrong , others def and ar seemed to be 15-30 k :lol:

Don't charge into wwers. Walk to a spot where you think their ww will stop and shift zeal. If the barb has long wws, then shift charge to the spot where you think their ww will stop and again shift zeal. And hope for the best. Ww and smite are too strong for zeal.

 

[Krisu]

So as you asked the life , it's 2,2k with my cta bo so i think that shouldn't be a problem but dmg reducement with those items is horrible so it should be fixed. And as you said "use fana to gain ar" okay i have max fana and ofcourse i use it , infact i think the baddest problem's in my build but im too tired to start a new one so i try fix them with verdungos and angelic combo.
And about "It's low for zealot" im a hybrid pretty much of a charger, so that's why its a problem. Smite is hopeless also because of non upped zaka :lol:
But thanks anyway.

- Krisu