Gear for a middle class BvC - My first WW barb ever

Klæmint Vágadal

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Gear for a middle class BvC - My first WW barb ever

Well, this will be the first time I would make a Barb since the game came out, so I need some help:smiley: I am going to make a Pub BvC.

Since Zerkers are hard to come by now days, I was thinking about going sword mast. What would be the best sword to make Grief in? I am thinking about dmg, range, speed...

What weapon combo schould I go for? Or Weapon + sheild? Schould I aim for max block too?

As for gear, I was thinking:

CoA "BerBer"
"Enigma" Mp
Arachnid
2xRavens
Highlords wrath
Gore Riders or Tri/Dual Res boots with FHR
Draculs (I dont really know here)

And skills, Max BO, max WW, max Sword Mast and Nat Res and Increase speed after needs, right?

Is there anything I am missing? What do I need to keep in my stash?
 

BierWiser

Diabloii.Net Member
Ah I dunno what the best sword choices would be, since Beast cannot be made in a sword. Berserker Axes are the best choice. Grief Berserker Axe + Beast Berserker Axe.
 

matchuk

Diabloii.Net Member
if u can afford a coa ber ber i cant see why u cant go griefz/beastz

dont bother with block u wont need it
 

Ce Olba

Banned
Since Zerkers are hard to come by now days, I was thinking about going sword mast. What would be the best sword to make Grief in? I am thinking about dmg, range, speed...
For a BvC, you HAVE TO use axes. And why? Because there's no half-decent support runeword that you can put into SWORDS.

And skills, Max BO, max WW, max Sword Mast and Nat Res and Increase speed after needs, right?
Max bo, max ww, max axe mastery, 14-20 Leap, 5-6 Nat res, 6 Increased Speed, rest shout.



 

Klæmint Vágadal

Diabloii.Net Member
Ok, I will try to get Zerkers then. But doses the GriefZ HAVE to be 34% IAS to hit the last ww bp with Highlords?

Is Leap a secondary attack?

What are good alternatives for Zerkers?
 

Imbecile

Diabloii.Net Member
Ok, I will try to get Zerkers then. But doses the GriefZ HAVE to be 34% IAS to hit the last ww bp with Highlords?

Is Leap a secondary attack?

What are good alternatives for Zerkers?
Whirlwind is only affected by On-Weapon-IAS so IAS from gear has no effect. You need a Grief Zerker with 34 < IAS.



 

Uvatha

Diabloii.Net Member
Ok, I will try to get Zerkers then. But doses the GriefZ HAVE to be 34% IAS to hit the last ww bp with Highlords?
Grief with 34+ IAS will make you reach the last WW bp. But have in mind no other IAS than the IAS found on weapon matters.
Is Leap a secondary attack?
He means "Leap" not "Leap attack". It is used to stun/knockback opponents.
What are good alternatives for Zerkers?
Thers no such thing.



 

matchuk

Diabloii.Net Member
tgods, fort, trangs/dracs, angelic rings ammy, hsarus belt boot, demons limb, widowmaker hel, arreats 40 15 ehhh cant think for anything else, light res stack gear
 

Klæmint Vágadal

Diabloii.Net Member
I got 2 Grief Ba now (Both over 34% IAS), I am going to trade one for a Beast, so that is taken care of.

But would Blood Fists not be a good choice? I tink I read that Life Tap doses not trigger during WW? :/

Why do I need so many points in Leap? What its it used for? I am still levleing him and trying to get the gear, so I have not had the chance to duel.

Btw; Any good hotkey setups?
 

Ce Olba

Banned
But would Blood Fists not be a good choice? I tink I read that Life Tap doses not trigger during WW? :/
You do not benefit from Bloodfists as much as you benefit from Draculs. You would need ~1700 physical damage added to BOTH of your axes to make sure that you have the SAME damage as you would have without Draculs. Which again is impossible.

Also, Dracul's add 15 STR, giving you +60 life. Yes, for life, Bloodfists would give up to +120, but that life is NOT needed. You also need to do damage. What's the point of having huge life if you do not damage? And vice versa also.

Why do I need so many points in Leap? What its it used for? I am still levleing him and trying to get the gear, so I have not had the chance to duel.
It will give you a knockback radius when used. Which helps you gain a namelock. And if you start saying how "easy it is to namelock people", try namelocking a 100% defensive 95% es max block orber without stunning her first.

Btw; Any good hotkey setups?
Anything that's close to a,s,d,f,g,q,w,e,r,z,x,c,v. I use a,s,d,f,g,q,e,r.



 

jmsplat

Diabloii.Net Member
Dracs also has vital OW, and the lifetap can trigger when you shoot arrows
I'd use a 20 DR vamp gaze if you can't afford CoA
Also you'll probably using trang gloves if there are a lot of casters in your game
BvCs don't really need asdfzxcv hotkeys, but I find it easier. I use:
z=ww
x=leap
c=tele
v=guided arrow
a=conc
s=unsummon
F1=BC
F2=BO
F3=shout
F4=werebear
 

bobofuzzlymunky

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i dont see why everyone here has this vendetta against anything non-berzerker axe. i made a bvc once using a 395% edeath Colossus Sword and he did FINE.. (using arreats, nigma, pheonix/ss) i didnt need to spend my life on griefs/ coa etc...
 

Ce Olba

Banned
i dont see why everyone here has this vendetta against anything non-berzerker axe. i made a bvc once using a 395% edeath Colossus Sword and he did FINE.. (using arreats, nigma, pheonix/ss) i didnt need to spend my life on griefs/ coa etc...
If you have not realized, it's not about doing FINE, it's about doing DAMN GOOD.

Fine is not enough for 98% of the pro PvPers.

And your barbarian here lacks: dual-wielding, damage, life, damage reduce.



 

Klæmint Vágadal

Diabloii.Net Member
CoA 2 Soc seems to be a bit hard to get :rolleyes: Can I get a 1 Soc 15% DR with Ber? Will the difference be vital? I have a 19% DR Gaze, but Gaze lacks Res, FHR...

I want to do the best I can for the supplies I have:smiley:
 

Klæmint Vágadal

Diabloii.Net Member
Yeah, I am aiming for a 2 Soc, but people seem to want 20 Ists, give or take, for them:undecided: And that is beyond my budget..

Btw; I did not wanna drop trade the torch, since I was afraid that B.Net was gonna eat it:rolleyes:
 

Ce Olba

Banned
CoA 2 Soc seems to be a bit hard to get :rolleyes: Can I get a 1 Soc 15% DR with Ber? Will the difference be vital? I have a 19% DR Gaze, but Gaze lacks Res, FHR...

I want to do the best I can for the supplies I have:smiley:
A 1 socketed Ber'ed one is the next best option.

Too bad that most of the pro people (mcm, morotsjos, blobs, luis) seem to think that a person who cannot afford even a 2 socket 15%/30% CoA should not even make a BvC... And even so blobs' strategies assumes quite a good level of skill. So to sum up: Godly items and very good skills.

As for the difference, the effective received damage will be ~25% less if you had a CoA with two Bers, so it can be QUITE of a difference.



 

Klæmint Vágadal

Diabloii.Net Member
Well, I have bought a 1 Soc 15% DR CoA, so that's what im gonna use at first hand, and maby over time I can upgrade to a 2 Soc 15% DR.

Now I only need a BeastZ, Anni and Arachnid, and maybe better Raven's.

What would be a good AR to aim for? And how much life schould I aim for?

And I have 409 stat points to spend, thats gonna be fun :grin: Click click click click...
 
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