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Gaze or Shako?

Discussion in 'Amazon' started by ZildjianDw, Apr 29, 2005.

  1. ZildjianDw

    ZildjianDw IncGamers Member

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    Gaze or Shako?

    Which one is better fow a bow zon? Gaze or Shako?
     
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    XZON IncGamers Member

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    MAGEZON = SHAKO (BIG MANA POOL & +SKILLS)
    STANDARD STRAFFER/MULTI ZON = GAZE (LEECH)
     
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    Leohappy IncGamers Member

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    It would help if you stated the purpose of your bowzon more clearly (like MF runner, exp runner, quest runner...) and approx skills/equip that you're going to use.

    Generally, Gaze and Harle aren't very high on my bowzon eq. wishlist (I like to have IAS helms), but if I had 5 seconds to choose between the two, I'd pick Harle - a well rounded helm with MF. Assuming of course, that leech is already available on other equipment pieces.
     
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    ZildjianDw IncGamers Member

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    Im looking to be pvp .
    The equip I am useing now is. Hightlords,16060Ias,Goreridders,2xravens,Laying of the hand,and goldwrap
     
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    Gogo valk wing.
     
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    Wmeredith IncGamers Member

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    If you're pvp skip the gaze, you don't need the leech, which is the only thing this helm has on a shako. EDITED BY DACAR92

    Oh, yeah, and if you're using the Gwrap for the ias, get a nos coil, you don't need GF or MF for PVP. And trade the Gores for War Travs for some extra damage. CB is ultra nerfed for ranged attackers, OW isn't really that great, and as for the DS, with your highlords and Crit. Strike skill you should be fine. I would also switch the LoH for Lava Gouts. LoH main attraction is the +350% dmg to demons: not necessary for PvP, unless you need the Fire Res.

    GL
     
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    XZON IncGamers Member

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    TITANS / SS ON SWITCH?

    +2 SKILLS HELP PASSIVES FOR PVP. LEECH IS USELESS PvP. BOTH HAVE DR BUT SHAKO HAS BIG MANA AND LIFE POOL WHICH ARE GREAT FOR PvP SINCE YOU CAN'T LEECH.

    LoH are great for PvM but crafted are better for PvP. As long as you are hitting your breakpoints then shako or CoA are best.
     
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    ZildjianDw IncGamers Member

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    But isnt goreridders better then war travs? Goreridders have +15% Chance of Deadly Strike on them that add's masive damage dosent it?You just cant see it on the damage bar.
     
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    IIRC, it only adds an insignificant advantage to Amazon's attacks.

    Here is a quote from bnet:


    Deadly Strike
    This is a chance of doing double damage. This bonus is applied after skills such as Critical Strike and any other damage bonuses. Critical Strike (CS) and Deadly Strike (DS) exclude each other.

    If you have a 33% Deadly Strike item, and 68% Critical Strike Skill the complete chance to get double damage is:

    =CS + (DS/100)*(100-CS)
    =68% + (33/100)*32%
    =68% + 10.56%
    =78.56%
     
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    ZildjianDw IncGamers Member

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    Ok well what should I go with then? Goreridders or War Travs?
     
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    Travs. Definitely Travs, IMHO.
     
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    war travs is the way to go. Especially since most zons are 300+ dex builds. With that 15-25 dmg added with the travs it gives a dmg boost in the hundreds that really helps. Travs are best overall for a pvp zon.
     
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    i used 08 gores on my league zon when i played

    they have 15% ds, 10 max dmg, 30% frw, -25% req, 65% enhanced def

    so basically the same as 09/1.10 gores but with 10 max dmg instead of cb and ow, and lower def

    imo the best, but rare
     
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    Go for Gores if pvm, because of DS, CB, OW etc.
    Go Wartravellers if pvp, reasons already explained.

    As for the helm... Why not Andys visage? sure, setback on fire res, but you can make it up with a ral rune... Nice strength bonus, ias, 2skills etc.
     
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    i think u should go with gore rider cuz of ow, not the ds. gore + dracul + other sort of items that gives ow. This will be big source of dmg in pvp.

    In pvm u dont need ow, due to fact that monster's life is a lot higher and they heal. ow can only be treated as using for preventing monster heal.
     

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