Fury Help

[oodjob]

Fury Help

Kiba was helping my out earlier, but I felt like I have pestered him enough and should ask everyone for help.
Firstly, I was told that Wolfers should use Cyclone Armor, however, usually to only put 1 point. Does anyone agree with me that perhaps I should put whats left of my skills after maxing Wolf/Lycanthropy/Fury/Sage?
Second, Ebotdz or Ebotd Pb? (Some tell me Grief is better but I dont really think so- you dont get as good of ias, stats, or damage).
Third, is Tomb Reaver really necessary for casters? (Im skeptical about the damage).
Fourth, Cerebus or Jalal?
Fifth, What Gloves/Boots? I was thinking about Dracs (or Bloodfist) and Gores however some gloves with knockback and nice stats seem good as well.
Lastly, I want to use Fort but this will sacrafice much life for strength. Is it worth it to use Enigma or no?
Any help much appreciated. (If I am way off on anything please let me know- new to SS Druids).

 

[Queen Mebd]

First: cyclone armor's meant for melee dueling, usually to keep the errant hellfire torches' fire from baking you when you've deshifted right before you're about to die. Some fury wolves go with Heart of the Wolverine for the ed/ar. I opted for grizzly on mine (you'd be surprised how many pub sorcs you could get with a delayed unsummon namelocked grizzly). You could max cyclone armor if you really wanted, though it won't absorb that much more damage without synergies.

Second: eBotDz or Grief phase blade. Grief has crazy consistent damage, some hefty deadly strike, and any ias will hit the same speed as an eBotDz. Phase blades have a base speed of [-30] and Grief grants at least 30 ias. Berserker axes have a base of [0], and the Breath of the Dying runeword provides 60 ias. Where the 'zerker shines is the stats as you mentioned and the extra range, which is nice when crapdins try to whack you with a shield.

Third: necessary, no, nice to have, certainly. Most people use ethereal Tomb Reavers, and they make for some nice damage. A relatively cheaper alternative is an eBotD great poleaxe (commonly gpa), though the resists on a Tomb Reaver can be nice. Maybe someone can chime in if they've had any experience with a non-eth Reaver.

Fourth: both. Jalal's for most every occasion, Cerebus for melee when you don't need the resists but could benefit from the ar and ow. Also consider Guillaume's for loading up on the deadly strike.

Fifth: Bloodfists. Drac's for pvm, maybe. Some fury wolves may say 'rends, but the defense isn't that big of a boost on wolves, and the ed is a drop in the bucket with a Fortitude and all the ed from Fury itself.

Lastly: you have lycanthropy, oak sage, bo if you really want to add to that. Life shouldn't be that big of an issue. Don't build around Enigma.

Hope that helps, I'm assuming this pup's pure fury as well, right?

 

[superjayson]

real wolves dont use dracs. blood fist all the way.

like queen said tombreaver is clearly supperior, but only if you can find one thats eth and with 3 sockets. otherwise an ebotdgpa will do.

and im going to again repeat what queen said. DO NOT stat around enigma. only caster chars should do that.

 

[Verashiden]

First: cyclone armor's meant for melee dueling, usually to keep the errant hellfire torches' fire from baking you when you've deshifted right before you're about to die. Some fury wolves go with Heart of the Wolverine for the ed/ar. I opted for grizzly on mine (you'd be surprised how many pub sorcs you could get with a delayed unsummon namelocked grizzly). You could max cyclone armor if you really wanted, though it won't absorb that much more damage without synergies.

Second: eBotDz or Grief phase blade. Grief has crazy consistent damage, some hefty deadly strike, and any ias will hit the same speed as an eBotDz. Phase blades have a base speed of [-30] and Grief grants at least 30 ias. Berserker axes have a base of [0], and the Breath of the Dying runeword provides 60 ias. Where the 'zerker shines is the stats as you mentioned and the extra range, which is nice when crapdins try to whack you with a shield.

Third: necessary, no, nice to have, certainly. Most people use ethereal Tomb Reavers, and they make for some nice damage. A relatively cheaper alternative is an eBotD great poleaxe (commonly gpa), though the resists on a Tomb Reaver can be nice. Maybe someone can chime in if they've had any experience with a non-eth Reaver.

Fourth: both. Jalal's for most every occasion, Cerebus for melee when you don't need the resists but could benefit from the ar and ow. Also consider Guillaume's for loading up on the deadly strike.

Fifth: Bloodfists. Drac's for pvm, maybe. Some fury wolves may say 'rends, but the defense isn't that big of a boost on wolves, and the ed is a drop in the bucket with a Fortitude and all the ed from Fury itself.

Lastly: you have lycanthropy, oak sage, bo if you really want to add to that. Life shouldn't be that big of an issue. Don't build around Enigma.

Hope that helps, I'm assuming this pup's pure fury as well, right?

QFT

Also, do remember that Grief's damage is "invisible" meaning it won't show up on the LCS. My Wolf had like 1.2k listed damage with Grief PB.

 

[oodjob]

First: cyclone armor's meant for melee dueling, usually to keep the errant hellfire torches' fire from baking you when you've deshifted right before you're about to die. Some fury wolves go with Heart of the Wolverine for the ed/ar. I opted for grizzly on mine (you'd be surprised how many pub sorcs you could get with a delayed unsummon namelocked grizzly). You could max cyclone armor if you really wanted, though it won't absorb that much more damage without synergies.

Second: eBotDz or Grief phase blade. Grief has crazy consistent damage, some hefty deadly strike, and any ias will hit the same speed as an eBotDz. Phase blades have a base speed of [-30] and Grief grants at least 30 ias. Berserker axes have a base of [0], and the Breath of the Dying runeword provides 60 ias. Where the 'zerker shines is the stats as you mentioned and the extra range, which is nice when crapdins try to whack you with a shield.

Third: necessary, no, nice to have, certainly. Most people use ethereal Tomb Reavers, and they make for some nice damage. A relatively cheaper alternative is an eBotD great poleaxe (commonly gpa), though the resists on a Tomb Reaver can be nice. Maybe someone can chime in if they've had any experience with a non-eth Reaver.

Fourth: both. Jalal's for most every occasion, Cerebus for melee when you don't need the resists but could benefit from the ar and ow. Also consider Guillaume's for loading up on the deadly strike.

Fifth: Bloodfists. Drac's for pvm, maybe. Some fury wolves may say 'rends, but the defense isn't that big of a boost on wolves, and the ed is a drop in the bucket with a Fortitude and all the ed from Fury itself.

Lastly: you have lycanthropy, oak sage, bo if you really want to add to that. Life shouldn't be that big of an issue. Don't build around Enigma.

Hope that helps, I'm assuming this pup's pure fury as well, right?

Thank you. And yes, the wolf is pure Fury. :smiley:

 

[oodjob]

real wolves dont use dracs. blood fist all the way.

like queen said tombreaver is clearly supperior, but only if you can find one thats eth and with 3 sockets. otherwise an ebotdgpa will do.

and im going to again repeat what queen said. DO NOT stat around enigma. only caster chars should do that.

I dont agree with that last statement at all. This may be true for wolves, but both my pure vita Smiter and Javazon use mp Nigma and they both do really, really well, especially the smiter.

 

[Queen Mebd]

I dont agree with that last statement at all. This may be true for wolves, but both my pure vita Smiter and Javazon use mp Nigma and they both do really, really well, especially the smiter.

What Jayson was trying to reiterate was there's no reason to be statting around an Enigma for shapeshifting druids. While it'll save you a lot of life on some characters, casters especially, and some other characters like smiters and javazons as well. I think the last statement was just a spot generalization to drive home the point. However it's not worth giving up Fortitude or a ed/str jeweled jeweler's armor of the whale or Bramble for fury-rabies wolves, as you've got lycanthropy and oak sage and possibly even bo to more than compensate for a little extra strength spent to equip your armor.

 

[Verashiden]

Plus Druid gets horrible life per vita returns. So the saved stats into str don't make that much of a difference.

 

[superjayson]

I dont agree with that last statement at all. This may be true for wolves, but both my pure vita Smiter and Javazon use mp Nigma and they both do really, really well, especially the smiter.

my rule is if you're going to use enigma for every duel and or everywhere else then stat around it. Otherwise its a complete waste to stat around it. most people make this mistake when using wolves. any experienced shifter has at least 2 armors they use.

the extra life gained from enigma is only a few hundred.

 

[oodjob]

Thanks for the help guys. I know we sort of already covered it, but in your personal opinion would you say ebotdz or grief pb? My current situation relies heavily upon which to use and I need to choose one way to go and stick with it. (Im currently in the works of trying to find eth tomb raver... wow is it going to be tough).

 

[superjayson]

it doesnt really matter, both are good. take your pick.

 

[Verashiden]

It's pretty much Range vs consistent damage. Take your pick.