Frenzy Barb, Arreat's Face vs. Guillaume's Face

mir

mir

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Arreat's Face, unless you want close to 100% DS. With HL and gore you already have ~40% and since many end-game weapons have DS too I think Arreat's is better.
 
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CorruptedMollusk

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I think it depends a lot on your other gear, especially weapons. If you have a respectable amount of CB on at least one weapon(or Duress and Gores), Arreats will win out every time; it boosts so many other things, especially the resists you're likely a little short on while dual wielding. IMO, the DS isn't going to make or break a Frenzier. And you can wear Highlords if you really want it.

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krischan

krischan

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mir said:
Arreat's Face, unless you want close to 100% DS.
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That's right when just considering DS (and weapon masteries add a separate chance for double damage as well), but Guillaume's is mainly about its 35% CB and not that much about its 15% DS. The question which to use is a matter of which other CB sources are available, as said. Examples :

A BotD+Death - Arreat's
Grief+Beast - Guillaume's

Independently from that, Highlord's is the best amulet and Goreriders are the best boots for a melee barb IMO.
 
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uglyfred

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For me it's generally a choice between my leech & chance to hit (i.e. Arreat's) vs. CB... I have good gear, so I can usually get my life (i.e. saved stat points for vit) & resists high "enough" for what I want. If I still find my leech/AR low at that point, Arreat's is really nice. But if my leech/AR is adequate, it's hard to beat that 35% CB.

IIRC, once upon a time I timed a ~dozen /p8 Baal runs with both (including a few charm-tweaks to compensate for lost res/AR) on a 2xGrief-PB Frenzier that I made, and around level ~90 they were almost identical.

PS. I do play softcore... if it were HC then I'd almost definitely go with Arreat's for the extra life, resists, leech & AR.
 
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